deadreckoning Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 World war 3? America's already one step ahead... almightyseancore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelmanfredi Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 i dont think we should get involved. we've seen time and time again that getting involved in other people's conflicts on a humanitarian basis does not help. we should continue diplomacy and offer humanitarian aid where we can. put sanctions on the country and stop supplying them with weapons. that should be the extent of our involvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 i dont think we should get involved. we've seen time and time again that getting involved in other people's conflicts on a humanitarian basis does not help. we should continue diplomacy and offer humanitarian aid where we can. put sanctions on the country and stop supplying them with weapons. that should be the extent of our involvement. Pretty sure it's the Russians that are supplying the weapons. At least, the rockets and stuff like that. Who knows about the chemicals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 i dont think we should get involved. we've seen time and time again that getting involved in other people's conflicts on a humanitarian basis does not help. we should continue diplomacy and offer humanitarian aid where we can. put sanctions on the country and stop supplying them with weapons. that should be the extent of our involvement. so getting involved in Bosnia in the 90's didnt help? we, the US, UN, NATO, cannot sit back and just let Assad kill innocent people. weinerdog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjb2k1 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 from what i've read, if we had helped the rebels at the beginning two years ago, the support from al nusra would not have been needed. necessity and opportunity dictated that. and now we're giving arms to the same type of people we just spent 11 years fighting. there is no good outcome for the US in this situation. the rebels are in bed with al qaeda. obama drew a line and assad crossed it. now you've got hezbollah and iran saying israel's going down if the US goes any farther with strikes against the regime. and we all know the US can't let anything bad happen to israel. so now what? honestly i'd rather we just focus on letting in refugees. we're slated to let in 2000 by ??? in 2014 (time table is fuzzy). a whole 2000 people out of the million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelmanfredi Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 so getting involved in Bosnia in the 90's didnt help? we, the US, UN, NATO, cannot sit back and just let Assad kill innocent people. oh c'mon. while that 20 year old intervention helped a lot of people, most of what we've done recently has not. at all. when we go into these countries nowadays we're not "promoting democracy" anymore. it just leads to more violence. but all in all, it's just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgato48 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 almightyseancore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylekrische Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 US never learns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danementzer Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 This is such a hairy topic. I'm active duty military, so it weighs on me prety heavily. We (US) have a history of not liking what a government/leader is doing, then funding/training/supplying the rebels to overthrow the government. The problem is, the rebels usually have an agenda that is far more sinister than ours (ie. osama bin laden). So, we see these terrible things happening in Syria (and they really are terrible), and we want to step in and act, but Obama wants to make sure he doesn't pull another Bush. He wants to make sure there really was a chemical weapon attack before he strikes. As of right now the reports are not verified. If we attack before the UN confirms that chemical weapons were actually used, we will be the pariah of the world. Russia and China have vowed to stick by Syria until there is proof. Personally, I hope we wait. By waiting we can determine the attacks were definitely chemical. Then we can hopefully gain the support of the UN (including Russia and China) and then do what needs to be done. As a nurse, this scares me and excites me at the same time. If we get into a war involving chemical weapons, we will be in uncharted territory. Sure, we have been exposed before, but never in a way where we will be forced to treat such massive casualties. I don't know if I answered anything, I'm just as perplexed as most. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac1 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 TFP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 So I gather that the Mint Press report (how rebels were behind the attack and that it was an accident) isn't confirmed yet either? I read it a couple of days ago, but haven't heard anything related after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanchardoswald Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 my take. land war in unoccupied forests of canada. fuck yeah. bring it. I've had this idea for a novel forever. Would be so much fun to write Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylekrische Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 A long read, but probably the best article I've seen yet on the situation. Crazy at this point how different a linear, rational analysis of the situation looks against popular news media. http://robertpaulwolff.blogspot.ca/2013/08/syria.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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