GradedOnACurve Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 im just happy to see ellsbury finishing next in line behind verlander. in most cases, i find it silly to consider a pitcher for the mvp; but towards the end of the season it seemed like every other day that espn headlines read "verlander wins again". I would've voted for Ellsbury. I believe he was first in WAR, 30-30, 5th in OPS, and I believe with his fielding made him the best all around player. Verlander was a no-doubter for Cy Young though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthemjfan23 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Not bashing anyone or trying to change minds but just giving my 2 cents. Hope its valuable the Cy Young Award goes to the BEST pitcher. that's why Felix Hernandez won with a 13-12 record on a team that finished .500. the MVP award goes to the player who was the most valuable to his team. ellsbury had an incredible season, but his team missed the playoffs. if i was playing in his place, the red sox more than likely would have done the same. where is his value to the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Ryan Braun wins NL MVP!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Nice, I like Braun a lot. Glad he won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Not bashing anyone or trying to change minds but just giving my 2 cents. Hope its valuable the Cy Young Award goes to the BEST pitcher. that's why Felix Hernandez won with a 13-12 record on a team that finished .500. the MVP award goes to the player who was the most valuable to his team. ellsbury had an incredible season, but his team missed the playoffs. if i was playing in his place, the red sox more than likely would have done the same. where is his value to the team? Agree to disagree. Although contenders usually have someone on their team that has MVP worthy numbers. That said, I would have voted for Kemp for NL MVP, but Braun winning isn't highway robbery either. He posted very similar numbers. Still weirded out by the Verlander decision. I am however glad you see eye to eye on the Cy Young. Just giving to the pitcher with the most "WINZ" is just dumb. Although that worked out for traditional voters this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Verlander was definitely worthy, but his team also had some other dudes who were huge contributors.. ie cabrera... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 Not stoked on Nathan going to the Rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
311thrice Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Haha! I'm very excited for that move. Good luck to whoever overpays for Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 Yea I want the Angels to snag Wilson away from Texas. Hopefully they can do it and not overpay too much. Whoever gets him will have to overpay for sure. He's from here and seems to want to play here so we'll see. At least if they overpay for him it will probably be worth it for at least a few years. Thats a step in the right direction for the Angels. Usually they overpay for guys who arent good at all. Matthews, Wells, Kazmir... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I think Wilson will get the same contract as Lackey did, but at least he is better than Lackey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 I like what the new Angels GM is doing. At least the rumors Im reading about for the Angels involve the kind of players and the positions they need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Broxton to Royals as a setup. I remember in 08 when Stairs hit the homerun off him in the playoffs and how huge it was to homer off him. How the mighty have fallen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Broxton to Royals as a setup. I remember in 08 when Stairs hit the homerun off him in the playoffs and how huge it was to homer off him. How the mighty have fallen. I saw that they were close to a deal. Broxton should be good as a set up man. I dunno if Id want him for my closer anymore but Id likely take him as a releiver/set up man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The royals were a good team for him to go to. Not too much pressure on them to win now and he can show that he still has it as a go to reliever. Im most interested to see if all this Marlins, Nats, Cubs talk signing big agents is for real, or just talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 The royals were a good team for him to go to. Not too much pressure on them to win now and he can show that he still has it as a go to reliever. Im most interested to see if all this Marlins, Nats, Cubs talk signing big agents is for real, or just talk. Yea lots of rumors around those 3 teams. Gonna be interesting to see where Pujols, Fielder and Wilson land. I think Pujols is staying put but the think the other 2 are moving on. I think the Angels are going to land Wilson and I think the Dodgers will get Fielder. Wilson grew up here and he would be in a pretty damn good starting roation with the Angels. Weaver, Wilson, Haren, Santana is a great rotation. If they can just get one decent starter to fill that 5th spot they could have the best rotation in the game. They are looking at Oswalt too. If they get them both then they easily have the best rotation around. Fielder is apparently friends with Kemp who the Dodgers just locked up long term and the Dodgers are in serious need of some big names to get that franchise back out of the gutter. Fielder would really help with that and get the fans around here really excited about the Dodgers again. I could see the Dodgers putting up the kind of money its going to take to get Fielder to sign. I really dont want the Dodgers to get them just cause I hate the Dodger so much but I wouldnt be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I figure Pujols will stay. Fielder will go to who offers him the most. Hopefully it is an AL team so he can DH the last year or two of his contract. His father fell off the map and out of the majors by 34 or so I think, and I can see Prince going the same way as him. I got no idea where I think Wilson will go. Anything sounds plausible to me. I really like him though, and I hope he stays in Texas as I feel that with Ryan and now both Greg and Mike Maddox there they can really make him better. I feel like that is a big reason as to why Wilson has exploded as a starter the past two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Red Sox hired Bobby Valentine as their manager Couple small signings.. Dodgers signed Adam Kennedy Cubs signed David Dejesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Congrats to DeJesus. He is from the town right next to mine and I know a lot of people who know his family. Good for him to be part of a team with such a historical past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Angels traded Chatwood to Colorado for Ianetta. Funny how Dipoto has only been the GM for like a month and already realized that Mathis is horrific and made a trade to fill his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 The Angels new GM didn't have to do much to stack up well given the past few years. That team was a leader in head-scratching moved and contracts. That said, they are having a competent off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 sox players pissed they hired valentine! awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 The Angels new GM didn't have to do much to stack up well given the past few years. That team was a leader in head-scratching moved and contracts. That said, they are having a competent off-season. Reagins was terrible, so many bad moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 Heath Bell signed with the Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentoage Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Heath Bell signed with the Marlins. As long as he is not on his way to Toronto, I am happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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