sacredheart Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Man that was a surprise. Didnt see it coming at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmBrain Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Ugh I really wanted Greinke and I was predicting a Giants signing after the playoffs went poorly AGAIN. just glad he didn't resign but we still need a starting pitcher, hopefully we can snag another top prospect like Cueto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalinacaper Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Ugh I really wanted Greinke and I was predicting a Giants signing after the playoffs went poorly AGAIN. just glad he didn't resign but we still need a starting pitcher, hopefully we can snag another top prospect like Cueto Shark. Womp womp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 90 million szmardja... enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheart Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Wow shark cashed in. No way he is a $18 million man. I know he moves to a pitching park but he had terrible numbers this last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Giants outbid the dodgers and cardinals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 these fn contracts are mind blowing. my boys may have won their last championship for a long time. however we didn't really have stellar pitching either. average to sub at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 At least your team has won one, i honestly don't think my franchise ever will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 How would you rank order these deals if you were a GM? Price (30) - 7 years, 217m Greinke (32) - 6 years, 206m Zimmermann (29) - 5 years, 110m Lackey (37) - 2 years, 32m Samardzija (30) - 5 years, 90m Happ (33) - 3 years, 36m Add anyone else you may want to throw in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I'm high on Zobrist and you all may think I'm nuts. I don't care how old he is at this moment. he can produce just as equally as anyone we can get since mega stars will never happen. if we let him go for $60 mil seems crazy but hey, we once signed Gil Meche to a $55 mil deal. (largest in franchise history). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTDRONES Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I'm high on Zobrist and you all may think I'm nuts. I don't care how old he is at this moment. he can produce just as equally as anyone we can get since mega stars will never happen. if we let him go for $60 mil seems crazy but hey, we once signed Gil Meche to a $55 mil deal. (largest in franchise history). That Meche contract... woof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmBrain Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Samardzija I think will do well in SF, and I'd consider that a great deal considering how young he is. I'm thinking our rotation is going to be Bumgarner, Samardzija, Heston, Cain and Peavy, maybe they would put Heston or Peavy as a middle starter or backup if they resign Leake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalinacaper Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 How would you rank order these deals if you were a GM? Price (30) - 7 years, 217m Greinke (32) - 6 years, 206m Zimmermann (29) - 5 years, 110m Lackey (37) - 2 years, 32m Samardzija (30) - 5 years, 90m Happ (33) - 3 years, 36m Add anyone else you may want to throw in there Zimmerman is head and shoulders the best value, if that's the confirmation you were looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTacoMunster Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I look at the deals by the yearly amount, and how many years I think they have left. Price is the worst on that list, which sucks because im a Sox fan, and I agree with catalina that the Zimmermann deal is the best one there. Price - 31 mil a year Greinke - 34.3 mil a year Zimmermann - 22 mil Lackey - 16 mil Samardzija - 18 mil Happ - 12 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmBrain Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I think Price is really overrated and not clutch just like Kershaw. I feel bad you guys just keep overpaying guys like Sandoval KingTacoMunster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheart Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 That Meche contract... woof If you remove the fact that Meche had the biggest contract in Royals history, which speaks for why that team was terrible for so long, the Meche deal wasnt that bad. He ended with a WAR of 10.1 over the four years he pitched there, and with 1 WAR averaging around 8 Mil now, if you say it was 5 or 6 mil back then, he earned that contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Zimmerman is head and shoulders the best value, if that's the confirmation you were looking for I wasn't trying to hype my team as much as to make the point that all of the contracts are crazy so it's pretty easy to say "that's too much money" when looking at them on an island. What's the alternative? Sign a 37 year old if you only want to go a couple years? Sign a 33 year old like Happ who's been pretty average for about the last 5 years? 5 years to a younger guy like Samardzija coming off a bad year and hope he can turn it around? Be the first to invest $100m in a pitcher with a Tommy John surgery who's fastball has been dipping like the Tigers? Or just pay up for a guy with no question marks not like Price and hope that age doesn't catch up to him too bad? I'd rank the Price deal as better than Zimmermann. Just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 More than anything I'd say I'm happy that JV showed something this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmBrain Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I strongly believe that Righetti can straighten out the shark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 VC has too much journalistic integrity to discuss the Chapman trade until it's been finalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 VC has too much journalistic integrity to discuss the Chapman trade until it's been finalized. I like to think we hold ourselves to a higher standard than Ken Rosenthal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalinacaper Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I like to think we hold ourselves to a higher standard than Ken Rosenthal I follow MLBTR religiously so I guess I'm classless in that context Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheart Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 It has been a crazy day following Chapman. Reports now saying he was arrested in October for shooting at his girlfriend and choking her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Yeah, chapmans deal might be falling apart because of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I love mlbtr, such a great resource this time of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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