travis Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 Looks like the Red Sox are gonna sign Jenks. They win at the offseason this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyIceyo Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Looks like the Red Sox are gonna sign Jenks. They win at the offseason this year. Yeah on paper they always have a decent team.. I just came on to post this as i got a text on my phone from weei.com hahah any white sox fans give a true in depth on jenks? i just know what ive seen when he plays the bosox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthemjfan23 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 the white sox have been trying to unload jenks for 2 and a half years now. he comes into spring training overweight every single year. it would have been nice to get something back for him if we would have been able to trade him instead of just letting him go, but whatever. it shows you how much we really cared about him in this organization to let him leave with no certifiable closer waiting in the wings. we have Matt Thornton, but he's got lots to work on, too. and he's a lefty, so we'll see how that works out this year. our bullpen is going to be our biggest issue this year, so the fact that we didn't even put up a fight to try to re-sign jenks should tell you just what kind of pitcher he has become. and 2 years/12 million for a set-up man is a lot if you ask me. especially considering last year he was limited to like 50 innings because of injury. also, last year he had his worst year ERA-wise (take that for whatever you think it's worth). every single time he comes into a game, he walks somebody and/or gives up a hit. his first couple years, every time he came in he was 1-2-3 lights out. but the past few seasons, every time he comes in, he makes you sweat. every time he takes the mound you wonder what he's going to do. that's not a good thing for a closer. since he can't keep his weight down, his velocity has dropped significantly and he has to rely on his other pitches which aren't nearly as good as what his fastball was. he used to throw 100+ with consistency. add that to what was a nasty hook, and he was damn near unhittable. but bring his fastball back down to earth topping out at 94, and he's much less intimidating to face. if boston can somehow convince him to shed about 30 pounds this offseason and either work to get his 3rd and 4th pitches respectable or just scrap them altogether, he may be decent for you next year. but i wouldn't hold my breath on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 Wonder if Boston is still trying to trade Papelbon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthemjfan23 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 i thought of that possibility, too. i can't see them thinking that jenks is an upgrade from him, though. if they do, they really didn't do their research on bobby. i just think they're trying to get to a point where they have enough good, serviceable arms in the bullpen that they only need their starters (who are almost all injury-prone, or at the very least aging) to go 6 innings every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 I don't think they are too bad off. They still have sabathia, hughes and burnett. I think Greinke would melt under the pressure of New York. burnett really isnt that good.. they have CC and Hughes, thats really it. it could be a rough season for the yankees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyIceyo Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 If there is one thorn in the side of the GM of the Sox its bullpen. I would drive papelbon to the airport personally if he got an offer elsewhere they way he tanked this season, and is trending down at a horrible clip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Tigers resign Maggs. One year, 10 Mil. Given that he is about as good as a hitter as there is still left out there, I'm very happy. Next year they shed Guillen and Mags contracts, and sign a 3rd huge bat to follow Martinez and Cabrera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 I don't think they are too bad off. They still have sabathia, hughes and burnett. I think Greinke would melt under the pressure of New York. burnett really isnt that good.. they have CC and Hughes, thats really it. it could be a rough season for the yankees and Hughes has really only had 1 good complete season at this point. Id say he's still unproven. Also about Papelbon, there have been rumors going around since before the Winter Meetings that they were looking to trade him. Not that Jenks is the "answer" for them but signing him would make a Papelbon trade more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Hughes is going to be a solid 4th type starter at worst i would say.. remember with a lineup that averages the most runs in baseball you don't need to be totally lights out. burnett is skitzo.... he's either total lights out, or hes a trainwreck... unfortunately he's a headcase and you never know which one you're getting. the yanks have two big prospect pitchers, and i'd imagine Nova at least will be in the rotation in the spring.. and the yanks are now after soriano.. which would give them a disgusting tail end of the bullpen... that would literally knock 2-3 innings off every game. i'm not horribly worried... i wanna see the yanks give some of these young kids a shot, get some life into the org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchbadass Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 now that the Red Sox have signed Booby Jenks, their payroll is HIGHER than the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 Yankees probably arent done just yet tho. I bet Pettitte resigns for another year and Im sure they wont just stop there either. Kerry Wood is going back to the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomoleksy Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 now that the Red Sox have signed Booby Jenks, their payroll is HIGHER than the Yankees. There's a lot of controversy over this. Red Sox had 50 million come off of their payroll this year, and were 40 million behind the Yankees in payroll in 2010. Also, right now Cot's (http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/) is reporting the Yankees to be at 178MM in 2011 for obligations before THIS off-season and Boston to be at 135MM. Obviously this doesn't include Crawford and all the bullpen pieces they recently got, as well as arbitration raises, but all things considered, I just don't see how this is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchbadass Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 dont shoot me shoot buster olney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Papelbon trade talk has been going on for years. It seems like they always entertain the idea and then never do it. Too bad they didnt do it at first as now his value has gone down over the past few years. But at least he is no Mitch Williams in your pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomoleksy Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 dont shoot me shoot buster olney Sorry didn't mean to come off as hostile towards you, you could even be right for all I know, just meant to point out that some people are seriously skeptical of Buster's report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Wood at 1 year, 1.5 mil is an awesome deal. No risk, lot's of reward possible. The .7 ERA with the Yankees was luck and a small sample size, but the 1.23 whip points to the fact that he was pitching like he was back in Chicago--3.5 to 4.0 ERA and tons of strikeouts. Wish the tigers had signed him and Putz instead of Benoit. Also, love seeing Minnesota lose it's relievers to other teams. Any word on Joe Nathan's health? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Kerry Wood was outstanding last year. I would have loved to see him stay with the Yankees, but I know Chicago is where he lives and played 13 or so years there. In other news Yankees signed Pedro Feliciano for a 2 year contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 i was really bummed that they didnt resign wood as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 brewers just traded for Greinke. awoefishaweofihapwegrhearighesoghae!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomoleksy Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 The NL Central is sure going to be exciting this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 Damn all these teams are coming out of nowhere to land all the big names this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamitekid Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Crazy. The central is going to be tough this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Greinke Gallardo Marcum Wolf Narveson thats a pretty good rotation to have with an offense with braun, hart, fielder, weeks and mcgehee. its good to be a brewer fan right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamitekid Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 That also means they aren't trading prince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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