Guest Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 WHY IS THIS NEWS?! I'M STRAIGHT AND NO ONE CARES THIS IS ONLY A STORY BCOZ ESPN SAYS SO LOL HE SURE AIN'T PLAYIN' TIGHT END FAGZZZZZZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneatingcow Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 It could hurt his draft stock a little bit. I could see a team in the Bible Belt passing on him (Dallas, Altlanta, NO), but I don't think he'll drop 20 picks because of it or anything. It's really no big deal. It'll be nice when this has happened a couple times and no one really cares anymore. I'd imagine there are going to be more than a few teams who pull him from draft boards. I love draft time so I actually started reading up about Sam in early January because he looked like a potential target for my Packers. While this isn't Jackie Robinson playing in the MLB it's still a long overdue evolution for professional athletics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 ok, i suppose i should have mentioned that that was my impression of any and all comments sections on the internet right now. i just wish this could go without any and all analysis. applaud him for what he's doing AND LEAVE IT AT THAT. everything else just stirs it up for all the shit bags out there who have entirely too much garbage to spew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'd imagine there are going to be more than a few teams who pull him from draft boards. I love draft time so I actually started reading up about Sam in early January because he looked like a potential target for my Packers. While this isn't Jackie Robinson playing in the MLB it's still a long overdue evolution for professional athletics. If he fell a full round I bet every team in the NFL would grab him. Too much money on the line. "Pull him off their draft boards" to me just means "we are knocking him down a little bit and someone else will probably grab him before he's our best available." Maybe there's a really liberal owner who will actually move him up the draft believing that he showed courage and strength? It's not out of the realm of possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Maybe there's a really liberal owner who will actually move him up the draft believing that he showed courage and strength? It's not out of the realm of possibility. which would then reflect courage and strength upon the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneatingcow Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I just think that there are going to be to many Coaches, General Managers and Owners who end up saying that they don't want to deal with the potential drama that Sam would bring with him. It's fucked up, but I think there will be quite a few teams that wouldn't touch him if he were sitting there in round 7. Hopefully I'm wrong. I was hoping he'd be a target for my Packers in rounds 3-5 and hope he still is. The Packers need an OLB that make plays, and preferably stay healthy. Edit - I'd also say if Jadeveon Clowney came out as homosexual I doubt teams would be dropping him on their boards. For an elite talent teams would take the added drama that this would bring. For a guy like Sam who was a 3rd round prospect I think a lot of teams will look at it as not worth the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneatingcow Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 From the linked Rotoworld blurb - Eight NFL executives and coaches anticipate a "significant" draft-day plunge for Missouri OLB Michael Sam after revealing that he is homosexual. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9382/michael-sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not wanting to deal with the media that would go along with it is a pretty legitimate concern to have I think. But some savvy team will swoop in and get a good value. Do you think Tebow would have been the worst player on a roster last season? No but it's just not worth having him around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not wanting to deal with the media that would go along with it is a pretty legitimate concern to have I think. But some savvy team will swoop in and get a good value. Do you think Tebow would have been the worst player on a roster last season? No but it's just not worth having him around. On tebow, yes. He sold a ton of jerseys. He just couldn't play and insisted on being a QB. Not wanting to deal with the media is not a legitimate reason to discriminate against someone for sexual orientation. You could easily rewind the clock and say the same thing about Alabama in the 60s. Unfortunately it will just be impossible to prove unless a GM lets the wrong thing slip to the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'm pretty anti-Tebow as an NFL QB, but he has a unique skill set that I don't think left him as the would-be worst QB in the league. I'm not saying it's a legitimate reason to not draft him. But it's going to be held against him. Not to mention that his being gay will be held against him by certain front offices as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Best comment on the Deadspin article: Elton John: Don't worry, Michael, it gets bett-"With the 11th pick of the 4th round of the 2014 NFL draft, the Detroit Lions select Michael Sam, Defensive End, University of Missouri* Elton: Sorry kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Also I hate the "I'm straight who cares" argument. People wouldn't have to "come out" and make an annoucement if all people accepted all people regardless of their sexual orientation. kamalatapes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamalatapes Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Personally I'm rooting for Sam. I'd be damn glad if any of the Bible Belt cities pass on him, he could come to the west coast where he could just be himself in California with the Chargers. No judgement over here! #bolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneatingcow Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I don't know if this has been talked about on here but the Aaron Rodgers is gay rumors finally got to a point where he had to admit he is straight this year. I found it funny the rumors got to that point where he had to address them. http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2013/12/aaron-rodgers-gay-rumors-circulate-did-he-and-boyfriend-kevin-la/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 im all for this, hopefully his draft status isnt impacted that much, and fuck the teams who worry abotu this issue. there are homosexual players in the NFL, theres no doubt in my mind. if he feels his draft value, and monetary income that comes with it, is adversely impacted because he "came out" he should sue those teams/NFL for discriminatory actions, and i'd be all for that, but at this point it might be tough to prove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedinexile Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Mel Kiper's latest mock draft has the Vikings taking Bortles with the 8th pick. One can only hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Mel Kiper's latest mock draft has the Vikings taking Bortles with the 8th pick. One can only hope. ugh I hate Mel Kiper. I guess I should be happy that he only crawls out of his hole once a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_jones Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 ugh I hate Mel Kiper. I guess I should be happy that he only crawls out of his hole once a year. Seriously. Even his face pisses me off. Wasn't there some controversy about him getting paid to hype up certain draft picks a few years back? I don't remember anything ever coming from that, and Kiper is still spewing his bullshit around draft time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalinacaper Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Seriously. Even his face pisses me off. Wasn't there some controversy about him getting paid to hype up certain draft picks a few years back? I don't remember anything ever coming from that, and Kiper is still spewing his bullshit around draft time. We'll he does work for ESPN... That seems to be a primary job role as an analyst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipsterasfolk Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Even though Tebow played (basically) one season, he probably could of got better in time, he is pretty elusive and has an Elway-esque comeback rally.....just not the arm and accuracy to match on a NFL level. He managed to take Denver to the playoffs and if you ever go to Fest....there is a sports bar where the top is just photos of him on the whole top of the bar. I did like the guy, just he lacks whats needed/expected to compete long term. He would be basically a B-side/cut rate Steve Young. Lot of what if and could ofs with Tebow, but an analyst isn't a bad job at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_jones Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 We'll he does work for ESPN... That seems to be a primary job role as an analyst Not really sure what you are trying to say... But anyway.. http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/10/mel-kiper-says-he-never-took-money-from-agents-as-ex-colleague-comes-to-his-defense/1#.UvkKGvldWSo This was what I was talking about.. he was accused of having his rankings influenced by agents. Guess it wasn't substantiated as he still works for ESPN and I haven't heard anything about this since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Could we no longer mention Tim Tebow and football player in the same sentence anymore? Better yet, let's forget about him altogether. I've can't think of another player who has more fans for doing nothing than him. He's no longer in the NFL, and its bad enough ESPN still can't stop jerking off to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I will just always remember Kiper having Jimmy Clausen as a top 10ish pick and McShay had him out of the first round. McShay was right. Every couple picks Kiper would have to justify his ranking to the panel on ESPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_jones Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I will just always remember Kiper having Jimmy Clausen as a top 10ish pick and McShay had him out of the first round. McShay was right. Every couple picks Kiper would have to justify his ranking to the panel on ESPN. McShay is always right when he argues with Kiper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 the ravens locker room will gladly take him if the timing and place is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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