tomfiend Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I mean...you could say that about any record though really, couldn't you? Why is any variant more expensive than a black unlimited record? Because it's limited and colored. Just because you're getting it at a marked up price direct from the distro rather than buying it at a marked up price on the secondary market doesn't make it any less limited or worthwhile, does it? The black pressing is not unlimited. Infact, I believe it is out of 500. The fact that there are blue copies still available just proves the point I made. Every other label I buy records from sells the product at the same price regardless of the colour. Maybe they charge an extra dollar or two if it is 180gm or is some kind of deluxe edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfiend Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I'm not trying to argue that it isn't shitty of them to do it, I'm just saying that it doesn't seem unthinkable that a company, which is what any label or distro is in the long run, would see the potential for profit and try to take advantage of it. Especially considering that if they were the same price from the label, they would be sold out long ago and flipped for at least $60 on the secondary market. Past the point of trying and I'm dying here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 The black pressing is not unlimited. Infact, I believe it is out of 500. The fact that there are blue copies still available just proves the point I made. Every other label I buy records from sells the product at the same price regardless of the colour. Maybe they charge an extra dollar or two if it is 180gm or is some kind of deluxe edition. I never said the black vinyl wasn't limited and I never tried to disprove your point... Obviously no one likes paying more for pretty much the same thing, and as I said knowing that the blue it isn't as limited as I thought, I'm no longer considering paying double the price; I was just stoked when I thought it was /50. I like when things are limited to double digits. It's great that the labels you buy from only charge a dollar or two more for deluxe editions, most deluxe editions cost significantly more, maybe not double, but more than a buck or two. And yes, any time I've bought colored it has been either the same price, or sometimes up to $5 difference, but never double. I'm just saying that it isn't out of the realm of consideration that the label feels they're justified in their pricing whether we agree with it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Past the point of trying and I'm dying here You sir, are genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfiend Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Why is any variant more expensive than a black unlimited record? Because it's limited and colored. I never said the black vinyl wasn't limited It was Implied. The point I'm trying to make, is not everyone creams their jeans enough over things that are limited to less than their IQ to pay an extortionate amount for them. Go see the Weeknd Trilogy box-set thread for proof. I think you may have a misguided perception of the majority viewpoint here. Thinking the way you do is the reason why people at places like crank! start using airline sales tactics. P.s. don't take me too seriously I'm just being a jaded (these years) wanker. somber_silt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 It was Implied. The point I'm trying to make, is not everyone creams their jeans enough over things that are limited to less than their IQ to pay an extortionate amount for them. Go see the Weeknd Trilogy box-set thread for proof. I think you may have a misguided perception of the majority viewpoint here. Thinking the way you do is the reason why people at places like crank! start using airline sales tactics. P.s. don't take me too seriously I'm just being a jaded (these years) wanker. Totally, I am exactly 0% butthurt over anything you've said so far and I think you made a very fair and good argument. I was kind of leary about even getting it at the /50 when I thought it was $40 but I was excited about seeing that they had it in stock because I had a boring day at work. And really the Deja example I gave is just because I've seen more people with boners for that record than any other on here, I mean it's a good record, but c'mon. After my first post I was somewhat just playing devil's advocate, I certainly thought more people would weigh in and we'd get a good discussion going. That fucking Weeknd trilogy boxset. WTF. When that thing came out I was excited until I saw the price tag and then I dropped any idea of trying to own it. (not to mention House of Balloons is the only record out of that set I really wanted and I can just get a German boot of it.) but yeah, I don't think it's ok for them to do charge that much more, I was just trying to show the mindset behind why they might. As it turns out I can't even justify the $20 shipped for a black copy, (I started out collecting years ago scouring thrift stores for records I wanted, now I don't even do that because Goodwill is charging $3 per record.) I just got excited thinking about a record I didn't realize was still available while I was at work earlier, slow day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandy Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Very few left on No Sleep! https://store.nosleeprecords.com/product/7174/the-power-of-failing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toomanyrecords Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Very few left on No Sleep! https://store.nosleeprecords.com/product/7174/the-power-of-failing snagged thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deletedunknown Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Wish that discount still worked, but grabbed anyway. Good timing, considering a reunion tour has just been announced. Hope I can make it to the DC show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Herzog Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Woo! Got one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Yes! Finally got one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Herzog Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 What's the numbers on the black copy? Also, is this from the same press that Crank! did last year, or did Jeff print up more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'd imagine these are old Crank! pressings, they pop up randomly in tiny quantities. Have no idea about the pressing number though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipsterasfolk Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 ....had in cart...timed out...sold out at checkout. FML Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainaldous Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I made out with one earlier. Stoked for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Herzog Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'd imagine these are old Crank! pressings, they pop up randomly in tiny quantities. Have no idea about the pressing number though. Thanks for the info Rambo. I'll ask around and see what others say. Arey should know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnstiles Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Will we get End Serenading before the reunion?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Herzog Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Will we get End Serenading before the reunion?! Maybe they'll have it on tour? Wishful thinking on my part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 This is the only chance EndSerenading will get pressed. Please Crank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niblips Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'd imagine these are old Crank! pressings, they pop up randomly in tiny quantities. Have no idea about the pressing number though. I got one of these at the beginning of April when there were a few made available.... i received the 2013 pressing. sounds great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I got one of these at the beginning of April when there were a few made available.... i received the 2013 pressing. sounds great Out of curiosity what are some indicators it's the 2013 pressing? Werner Herzog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Herzog Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Out of curiosity what are some indicators it's the 2013 pressing? If it has 10 songs, as opposed to 8 on the original press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 If it has 10 songs, as opposed to 8 on the original press I checked the matrix etching on discogs, it's S-73057 on the A-side, so a 2013 press. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanspants Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hi everyone, longtime lurker here. I just wanted to post this from Mineral's Facebook page. I can hardly contain myself. Excited to announce the deluxe remastered release of our albums, 1996’s The Power Of Failing and 1998’s EndSerenading, each on double DMM 180 gram vinyl on October 20, 2014 internationally viaXtra Mile Recordings and on October 21, 2014 in North America via Arena Rock Recording Company. The labels will also release Mineral – 1994-1998, a double CD compilation of both albums with previously unreleased songs recorded during The Power Of Failing sessions, as well as bonus tracks recorded during various sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hi everyone, longtime lurker here. I just wanted to post this from Mineral's Facebook page. I can hardly contain myself. Excited to announce the deluxe remastered release of our albums, 1996’s The Power Of Failing and 1998’s EndSerenading, each on double DMM 180 gram vinyl on October 20, 2014 internationally via Xtra Mile Recordings and on October 21, 2014 in North America via Arena Rock Recording Company. The labels will also release Mineral – 1994-1998, a double CD compilation of both albums with previously unreleased songs recorded during The Power Of Failing sessions, as well as bonus tracks recorded during various sessions. http://boards.vinylcollective.com/topic/104132-mineral-the-power-of-failing-and-endserenading-deluxe-2xlps/?hl=mineral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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