TFP Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Gotcha. I was talking less about seam splits and more about other damage, seam splits are a bummer but I don't worry too much about them. Looks like we're on the same page. That's ok, sorry if I seemed that way. I use bolding for different reasons haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 That's ok, sorry if I seemed that way. I use bolding for different reasons haha. Nah it's all good. I misread it, I guess. Maybe if you'd bolded the part I said as well so they looked like each other I may have gotten it more quickly, but we're good. I've been a little hot-headed the last couple weeks, and I'm trying not to be, so maybe I'm just transferring that into what other people are saying too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown pleasures Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 It depends on how much I payed for the record and how it was packed. If I'm buying a cheap domestic record, a little damage doesn't bother me as long as the record is OK. If I'm buying a rare record that I payed $50 or more for and it arrives damaged due to poor packing, I'm going to say something. This is a good point that came to mind after my original post. For better or worse, I give a band or label I'm buying from direct a little more slack than something I'm buying off eBay or Discogs. In those cases, I figure if I'm paying a premium to a reseller, they should take some care in packing it to minimize damage. A bad corner ding on a $15 newly released LP doesn't bug me as much as on a $50 "rare" record. Don't know if it's fair, it's just the way I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeepo Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I don't know why I've never requested that the label/distro separate the record from the jacket to avoid seam splits. I guess that's what the "additional comments" section is for, eh? I'm quite fortunate. I've never been delivered a broken or severely warped record. Even when records are packaged shittily. Dents and splits happen, but like someone else said, they don't stop me from listening to the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funtitled Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I have a record with a serious corner bend, its one of my favorite albums so I almost returned it,but I dealt with that it's just what happens when you buy vinyl online. (it was packaged very well and the other two records were perfect.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smailtronic Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Does the record play fine? That's all that matters. Korgull Of Morgoth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niblips Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Does the record play fine? That's all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psus2h Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I've only returned one order because the shop clearly jammed everything into one box to saw in shipping costs totally screwing up the jackets on 4 out of the 6 items ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I've been buying records via Mailorder for almost 25 years and have only contacted labels for replacements three times, and its never been about the jacket. Twice was because the records were literally broken and once was from a pressing defect where the record had big gouges in the grooves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arem Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I'm not cutting labels any slack for seam splits or corner dings, they are charging lots of money and trying to create collector interest by doing loads of variants,limited editions, and so on. If they want that kind of money I want my stuff to arrive minty. Depending on the item I may let small dings go but otherwise if I get damaged goods I'm definitely looking for them to make it right. 74R 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I'm not cutting labels any slack for seam splits or corner dings, they are charging lots of money and trying to create collector interest by doing loads of variants,limited editions, and so on. If they want that kind of money I want my stuff to arrive minty. Depending on the item I may let small dings go but otherwise if I get damaged goods I'm definitely looking for them to make it right. Agreed. Labels are SO entitled these days. That is why I also expect the album to arrive mint no matter what, regardless of the realities or inherent risks of the convenience of ordering records via mail. kurtz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladew1ll1s1sdead Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I'm not cutting labels any slack for seam splits or corner dings, they are charging lots of money and trying to create collector interest by doing loads of variants,limited editions, and so on. If they want that kind of money I want my stuff to arrive minty. Depending on the item I may let small dings go but otherwise if I get damaged goods I'm definitely looking for them to make it right.You are the worst type of person. kurtz, Korgull Of Morgoth and smailtronic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBarry Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I'm cool with others being picky. I've been able to snag a good handful of items off the boards for good prices because of "seam splits" and corner dings. If I'm physically in store - I'll go out of my way to look around for the best of something, but if I'm ordering online? luck of the draw. This is pretty much how I feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arem Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 You are the worst type of person. No, you are the worst kind of person, people like you are the reason quality continues to decrease with regards to records and everything else in the world. If you just accept that fuckups are acceptable and nothing is perfect then nothing will be. Yes shit happens, but people have to be responsible for it, especially if they are charging a premium. Strive for excellence and have some fucking standards, I guarantee that the people you admire do. 74R 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Great thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retep Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Should a cover arrive ridiculously banged up I may email the label to see if they happen to have any jackets left over, if they do I'll offer to pay shipping + the small cost for the jacket if they could send it to me (Sub Pop were really great about this). The only time I'll be really bad about anything is if it's clearly the senders fault and they packed the record with no worries on it arriving soundly; in that case I may just email and return it and then try and find another outlet to snag the album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 No, you are the worst kind of person, people like you are the reason quality continues to decrease with regards to records and everything else in the world. If you just accept that fuckups are acceptable and nothing is perfect then nothing will be. Yes shit happens, but people have to be responsible for it, especially if they are charging a premium. Strive for excellence and have some fucking standards, I guarantee that the people you admire do. I got a Teenage Bottlerocket boxset from Interpunk that has a giant gash in the box, didn't email them. I've been waiting for Count Your Lucky Stars to replace a severely scratched record for over a month now and I'm still without. Am I losing my shit? Nope. Will I? Naw. Shit happens and we're all human. Humans fuck up, nothing is perfect. DakotyTSI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arem Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'm not saying lose your shit and threaten to bomb the label, but if I paid $130 or whatever you paid for that boxset and got it with a "giant gash" I would demand a new one, or a partial refund. Why are you (or any of us) just supposed to be cool with getting damaged goods at top prices? Like I said, yes shit happens and yes people aren't perfect, but people also have to make it right when problems arise. I cannot fathom being OK with less. 74R and kamalatapes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamalatapes Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I don't involve my feelings at all, I think of it all as a business transaction, (except for boutique labels! I do 99% of the time give them the benefit of the doubt never really had a problem with them unless we consider Drag City a boutique because I've filed a PayPal claim with them before but luckily it fell through and the package did arrive, I thoroughly hate how Drag City and ITR try to press it's customers as the bad guys and punish flippers when they themselves play these little games of 50$ record sales by e-mailing them for exclusive shit or how they put out public notifications by claiming "ultra limited record!" and then going back on their word and calling it "unlimited now due to flippers!" these labels don't give a shit, if they did, they'd put a limit to how many purchases one could buy, other labels practice this method with ease, but those two labels in particular love to reap the benefits of Ty Segall swag and cause a ruckus in the Ty Segall collectors community)Any label that puts out a record with poor playback on the wax itself gets a disgruntled customer e-mail.If I buy a flipped item off eBay I expect thee best packaging effort ie: record sandwiched between two cardboard boxes or bubble surround. I always message them and ask for the best care possible and even ask them to write fragile on the box. If I buy from a large corporation like Go Hastings, or Best Buy or Urban Outfitters I'll complain on anything that ruins the integrity of the original print. It's simple to me really, they make a lot of money, they can afford top of the line shipping products, boutique record labels I buy from have gravitated toward the best measures possible in preventing damage! I always keep my cool though I never send angry e-mails, and I always ask what can be done before hand, if I get no response within a solid 7 days, I'd go straight to PayPal 74R 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladew1ll1s1sdead Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 No, you are the worst kind of person, people like you are the reason quality continues to decrease with regards to records and everything else in the world. If you just accept that fuckups are acceptable and nothing is perfect then nothing will be. Yes shit happens, but people have to be responsible for it, especially if they are charging a premium. Strive for excellence and have some fucking standards, I guarantee that the people you admire do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejesseb Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Great thread.Classic VC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeepo Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Where's ShittyRambo with "THE HOBBY !!!!!!!!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Where's ShittyRambo with "THE HOBBY !!!!!!!!!!" Hey now, I stole that from jhulud, our Admin and savior. kamalatapes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeepo Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Hey now, I stole that from jhulud, our Admin and savior. THE HOBBY!!!!!!!!!! *awaits banhammer* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74R Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't have children. I have records. kamalatapes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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