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I can't help but feel like we are getting too caught up with labels in this thread...I feel like those things are created purposely to divide us and keep us divided...If there will ever be any progress we need to set aside the labels and have conversations about the current problems in our country and how they can be solved. 
 
I might get some hate for this but I would recommend the documentary on Netflix "Requiem for the American Dream" which I found very insightful when looking at the history of our country and why we are where we are today. It is only 70 minutes so it is a short watch but it is quite interesting. I'm a huge fan of the novel 1984 by George Orwell and see some major parallels between what Noam Chomsky is talking about and the novel, specifically in the beginning where he is talking about the concentration of wealth leading to a concentration of power that leads to legislation that proliferates that concentration of both. It is an unbroken cycle. In the totalitarian state of Oceana in the novel 1984 The Party keeps people controlled by the cycle of war. They go to war (in the middle east) to build the labor force, to make weapons for war, to get destroyed in the war so the cycle continues. I feel like Chomsky is making the argument that while we are told we are living in a democracy, it has become more of a liberal totalitarian state. We get all this rhetoric from the media (both liberal and conservative) that we live in the "greatest country in the world" and that "America is a democracy" but what if that is all just rhetoric to continue our belief in the lie that we are a democracy? It is an interesting question. I mean look at what happens when the people protest against what they feel is something that is wrong and how the police respond to it. Is our first amendment right to free speech and the ability to protest just a ruse that our government wants us to keep believing we have? 
 
Also, he makes and interesting discussion about the idea of socialism and compares it to public education. "From the point of view of the masters you are only supposed to care about yourself and not care about others. It has taken a lot of effort to drive these basic human notions from peoples heads and we see it today in policy formation in social security. Social security means I pay payroll taxes so the widow across town has something to live on. This means nothing to the rich so they put a lot of effort into destroying it. The public schools are based on this same principal of solidarity. I no longer have children in school, they are all grown up, but the principal of solidarity says that I should pay taxes so that other students have the same right to go to school." (all of that is paraphrased from the documentary) I feel like these are the same things we are trying to do with healthcare and higher education right now and it brings up an interesting point. Should we care about our neighbors and help them or should we just care about ourselves and the bottom line? 
 
My personal interpretation is that it is a basic human emotion to care about others and I agree with Chomsky in his argument that the people in power are trying to drive this principle of solidarity out of us because it serves no purpose to them and it only makes us stronger as a democracy...
 
I hope this incites a healthy debate and discussion because all of the hatred and bigotry towards "liberals" and "conservatives" and "republicans" and "democrats" gets us nowhere...

I can't help but feel like we are getting too caught up with labels in this thread...I feel like those things are created purposely to divide us and keep us divided...If there will ever be any progress we need to set aside the labels and have conversations about the current problems in our country and how they can be solved. 
 
I might get some hate for this but I would recommend the documentary on Netflix "Requiem for the American Dream" which I found very insightful when looking at the history of our country and why we are where we are today. It is only 70 minutes so it is a short watch but it is quite interesting. I'm a huge fan of the novel 1984 by George Orwell and see some major parallels between what Noam Chomsky is talking about and the novel, specifically in the beginning where he is talking about the concentration of wealth leading to a concentration of power that leads to legislation that proliferates that concentration of both. It is an unbroken cycle. In the totalitarian state of Oceana in the novel 1984 The Party keeps people controlled by the cycle of war. They go to war (in the middle east) to build the labor force, to make weapons for war, to get destroyed in the war so the cycle continues. I feel like Chomsky is making the argument that while we are told we are living in a democracy, it has become more of a liberal totalitarian state. We get all this rhetoric from the media (both liberal and conservative) that we live in the "greatest country in the world" and that "America is a democracy" but what if that is all just rhetoric to continue our belief in the lie that we are a democracy? It is an interesting question. I mean look at what happens when the people protest against what they feel is something that is wrong and how the police respond to it. Is our first amendment right to free speech and the ability to protest just a ruse that our government wants us to keep believing we have? 
 
Also, he makes and interesting discussion about the idea of socialism and compares it to public education. "From the point of view of the masters you are only supposed to care about yourself and not care about others. It has taken a lot of effort to drive these basic human notions from peoples heads and we see it today in policy formation in social security. Social security means I pay payroll taxes so the widow across town has something to live on. This means nothing to the rich so they put a lot of effort into destroying it. The public schools are based on this same principal of solidarity. I no longer have children in school, they are all grown up, but the principal of solidarity says that I should pay taxes so that other students have the same right to go to school." (all of that is paraphrased from the documentary) I feel like these are the same things we are trying to do with healthcare and higher education right now and it brings up an interesting point. Should we care about our neighbors and help them or should we just care about ourselves and the bottom line? 
 
My personal interpretation is that it is a basic human emotion to care about others and I agree with Chomsky in his argument that the people in power are trying to drive this principle of solidarity out of us because it serves no purpose to them and it only makes us stronger as a democracy...
 
I hope this incites a healthy debate and discussion because all of the hatred and bigotry towards "liberals" and "conservatives" and "republicans" and "democrats" gets us nowhere...

As a teacher, The Board of Education needs to be eliminated because it does nothing but stunt learning and take valuable time in the classroom away from teachers who need it. 
 
I think Libertarians have some cool ideas that I agree with but I don't think it really does anything to stop the amount of corporate welfare that is happening in America. We hear all the time about the poor "taking our tax money" but the media never focuses on the corporations that hide money in offshore accounts and cash giant bonus checks that they get for doing absolutely nothing. I feel like there is some great discussion in this thread but we are focusing too much on "isms" (and according to ferris beuhler isms are not good). Regardless of which "party" we belong to or identify with we have to recognize that the capitalist system we live in is royally fucking everyone but themselves and there needs to be some accountability. As a country I think we should take a long look at the tax programs that were in place before Nixon and that fucking piece of shit Ronald Reagan were in office. I think there are some answers in taxing corporations and bringing jobs back to america, we just have to recognize that we are going to piss off corporations in the process and we shouldn't give a shit because corporations are not poeple
 
This whole election is so frustrating to me because I feel like we are getting distracted by the media by all this other bullshit when the solutions are right in front of our face. We just need a way to elect leaders that will put these ideas into practice and are not easily corruptible which is something we don't really have right now. Besides...is it possible for a leader to get into power and not be corrupted? 

I love this response and I think the major problem in America is that we are victims of the capitalist mindset where its all about me and my dream and my money and fuck everyone else. Also, again the idea that all of our tax money is going to help people that are lazy is just ridiculous. Yes, there are some people who take advantage of the system but not all of them. If the system isn't working and people find the loopholes and take advantage of them should we blame them or should we blame the system. I choose to blame the system and the people who run it for not seeing the inherent problems and trying to fix them. 
 
 

As a teacher, The Board of Education needs to be eliminated because it does nothing but stunt learning and take valuable time in the classroom away from teachers who need it. 
 
I think Libertarians have some cool ideas that I agree with but I don't think it really does anything to stop the amount of corporate welfare that is happening in America. We hear all the time about the poor "taking our tax money" but the media never focuses on the corporations that hide money in offshore accounts and cash giant bonus checks that they get for doing absolutely nothing. I feel like there is some great discussion in this thread but we are focusing too much on "isms" (and according to ferris beuhler isms are not good). Regardless of which "party" we belong to or identify with we have to recognize that the capitalist system we live in is royally fucking everyone but themselves and there needs to be some accountability. As a country I think we should take a long look at the tax programs that were in place before Nixon and that fucking piece of shit Ronald Reagan were in office. I think there are some answers in taxing corporations and bringing jobs back to america, we just have to recognize that we are going to piss off corporations in the process and we shouldn't give a shit because corporations are not poeple
 
This whole election is so frustrating to me because I feel like we are getting distracted by the media by all this other bullshit when the solutions are right in front of our face. We just need a way to elect leaders that will put these ideas into practice and are not easily corruptible which is something we don't really have right now. Besides...is it possible for a leader to get into power and not be corrupted? 

As a teacher, The Board of Education needs to be eliminated because it does nothing but stunt learning and take valuable time in the classroom away from teachers who need it. 
 
I think Libertarians have some cool ideas that I agree with but I don't think it really does anything to stop the amount of corporate welfare that is happening in America. We hear all the time about the poor "taking our tax money" but the media never focuses on the corporations that hide money in offshore accounts and cash giant bonus checks that they get for doing absolutely nothing. I feel like there is some great discussion in this thread but we are focusing too much on "isms" (and according to ferris beuhler isms are not good). Regardless of which "party" we belong to or identify with we have to recognize that the capitalist system we live in is royally fucking everyone but themselves and there needs to be some accountability. As a country I think we should take a long look at the tax programs that were in place before Nixon and that fucking piece of shit Ronald Reagan were in office. I think there are some answers in taxing corporations and bringing jobs back to america, we just have to recognize that we are going to piss off corporations in the process and we shouldn't give a shit because corporations are not poeple
 
This whole election is so frustrating to me because I feel like we are getting distracted by the media by all this other bullshit when the solutions are right in front of our face. We just need a way to elect leaders that will put these ideas into practice and are not easily corruptible which is something we don't really have right now. Besides...is it possible for a leader to get into power and not be corrupted? 

As a teacher, The Board of Education needs to be eliminated because it does nothing but stunt learning and take valuable time in the classroom away from teachers who need it. 
 
I think Libertarians have some cool ideas that I agree with but I don't think it really does anything to stop the amount of corporate welfare that is happening in America. We hear all the time about the poor "taking our tax money" but the media never focuses on the corporations that hide money in offshore accounts and cash giant bonus checks that they get for doing absolutely nothing. I feel like there is some great discussion in this thread but we are focusing too much on "isms" (and according to ferris beuhler isms are not good). Regardless of which "party" we belong to or identify with we have to recognize that the capitalist system we live in is royally fucking everyone but themselves and there needs to be some accountability. As a country I think we should take a long look at the tax programs that were in place before Nixon and that fucking piece of shit Ronald Reagan were in office. I think there are some answers in taxing corporations and bringing jobs back to america, we just have to recognize that we are going to piss off corporations in the process and we shouldn't give a shit because corporations are not poeple
 
This whole election is so frustrating to me because I feel like we are getting distracted by the media by all this other bullshit when the solutions are right in front of our face. We just need a way to elect leaders that will put these ideas into practice and are not easily corruptible which is something we don't really have right now. Besides...is it possible for a leader to get into power and not be corrupted? 

Word, That is an interesting article. I'm going to have to spend more time with it. I think it must be a religious thing because I see it much like Christian Americans (4 in 10) who believe that the earth is 6-10,000 years old and think that the devil planted dinosaur bones in the ground to trick us. Religion is full of nutty stuff, hopefully the people in power can stay smart enough to understand the separation of church and state....http://www.livescience.com/46123-many-americans-creationists.html
 
As terrifying as Shariah Law is I find radical Christians more terrifying because of their rejection of things that can be proved by multiple things. Their ability to double think is astounding.

I would like to see some evidence to support this opinion because every person of the Muslim faith that I have met is pretty much like an average everyday person...

Want this so fucking bad but fuuuuuck that shipping...
 
 
Where is the goddamn media mail option...

I was thinking about this today and how much it sucks that Catalyst and Coming Home haven't been released on vinyl yet...also totally forgot about all of the drama surrounding this...haha
 
 
Anyone know of any new developments or are these both still in vinyl purgatory...

Reflecting upon The Hotelier and their lyrics there is no way this was done for shock value and to think so (I think) misses the whole point. 
 
 
Now I haven't heard the record yet but I am sensing there will be some kind of theme of connection. Mankind's connection to nature and each other. What I get from the picture is that "Goodness" or "Happiness" is only available to us when we toss away our worldly possessions and strip ourselves down to our natural form. True aggression and hatred usually come from the social construct of wanting what the other person has. By having this cover the band is commenting that when you strip away all of the typical bullshit of everyday life such as jobs, possessions, clothes, houses and just simply exist with nature, man is basically good inside. I completely agree with that sentiment and I think this is one of the most honest and beautiful record covers I've seen in ages. 
 
Also, its not the first fucking record to have naked people on it...fucking Jimmy Hendrix has a record with naked people...Linda Ronstadt has a record where you can basically see her boobs through the dress. I have a Pink Floyd record called A Nice Pair with a pair of boobs right on the front. Hell I think the first pair of boobs I saw may have been on a record cover. Children aren't going to be scarred by seeing naked old people or naked people in general...hell it will probably do them good...just explain that it is art and they might not be able to understand it until they are older...
 
I'm really sick of all of the backlash for this album cover...give the world a dose of realism and they flip their shit...you don't see people bitching like this over the girls of the cover of The Dwarves records... 

Reflecting upon The Hotelier and their lyrics there is no way this was done for shock value and to think so (I think) misses the whole point. 
 
 
Now I haven't heard the record yet but I am sensing there will be some kind of theme of connection. Mankind's connection to nature and each other. What I get from the picture is that "Goodness" or "Happiness" is only available to us when we toss away our worldly possessions and strip ourselves down to our natural form. True aggression and hatred usually come from the social construct of wanting what the other person has. By having this cover the band is commenting that when you strip away all of the typical bullshit of everyday life such as jobs, possessions, clothes, houses and just simply exist with nature, man is basically good inside. I completely agree with that sentiment and I think this is one of the most honest and beautiful record covers I've seen in ages. 
 
Also, its not the first fucking record to have naked people on it...fucking Jimmy Hendrix has a record with naked people...Linda Ronstadt has a record where you can basically see her boobs through the dress. I have a Pink Floyd record called A Nice Pair with a pair of boobs right on the front. Hell I think the first pair of boobs I saw may have been on a record cover. Children aren't going to be scarred by seeing naked old people or naked people in general...hell it will probably do them good...just explain that it is art and they might not be able to understand it until they are older...
 
I'm really sick of all of the backlash for this album cover...give the world a dose of realism and they flip their shit...you don't see people bitching like this over the girls of the cover of The Dwarves records... 

Reflecting upon The Hotelier and their lyrics there is no way this was done for shock value and to think so (I think) misses the whole point. 
 
 
Now I haven't heard the record yet but I am sensing there will be some kind of theme of connection. Mankind's connection to nature and each other. What I get from the picture is that "Goodness" or "Happiness" is only available to us when we toss away our worldly possessions and strip ourselves down to our natural form. True aggression and hatred usually come from the social construct of wanting what the other person has. By having this cover the band is commenting that when you strip away all of the typical bullshit of everyday life such as jobs, possessions, clothes, houses and just simply exist with nature, man is basically good inside. I completely agree with that sentiment and I think this is one of the most honest and beautiful record covers I've seen in ages. 
 
Also, its not the first fucking record to have naked people on it...fucking Jimmy Hendrix has a record with naked people...Linda Ronstadt has a record where you can basically see her boobs through the dress. I have a Pink Floyd record called A Nice Pair with a pair of boobs right on the front. Hell I think the first pair of boobs I saw may have been on a record cover. Children aren't going to be scarred by seeing naked old people or naked people in general...hell it will probably do them good...just explain that it is art and they might not be able to understand it until they are older...
 
I'm really sick of all of the backlash for this album cover...give the world a dose of realism and they flip their shit...you don't see people bitching like this over the girls of the cover of The Dwarves records... 

Good luck man...as a fellow collector...I kind of gave up on this one

Not to get all political and shit on a vinyl message board but
 
 
Is this really happening? Is this dude really going to be the republican nominee?
 
 
I just....I don't even know...
 
 
On a side note, anyone else laughing watching Chris Christie hump Trumps leg for that Vice President spot...
 
 
Feel free to tell me to fuck off (I know it's coming) but I can't be the only person who feels like he's in the land of OZ right now...
 
Maybe we'll get lucky and someone will drop a house on him....

Not to get all political and shit on a vinyl message board but
 
 
Is this really happening? Is this dude really going to be the republican nominee?
 
 
I just....I don't even know...
 
 
On a side note, anyone else laughing watching Chris Christie hump Trumps leg for that Vice President spot...
 
 
Feel free to tell me to fuck off (I know it's coming) but I can't be the only person who feels like he's in the land of OZ right now...
 
Maybe we'll get lucky and someone will drop a house on him....

Foxy Shazam - Self Titled...
 

 
Holy fuck what a wall of pop insanity...

You're right...I should totally have taken this more seriously....
 
Here's my real top 10 Dave Grohl
 
The Wonder Years - The Upsides
Pink Floyd - The Wall
The Ataris - So Long Astoria
Blink 182 - Dude Ranch
Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake It's Morning
Bob Dylan - The Times They Are A Changin
Day At The Fair - The Rocking Chair Years
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
Motion City Soundtrack - Commit This To Memory
The Weakerthans - Reunion Tour
 
POOP PVNX 4EVAAAAAAAAAA

As of right now
 
The Wonder Years - The Upsides
Pink Floyd - The Wall
The Ataris - So Long Astoria
Blink 182 - Dude Ranch
Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake It's Morning
Bob Dylan - The Times They Are A Changin
Day At The Fair - The Rocking Chair Years
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
Motion City Soundtrack - Commit This To Memory
The Weakerthans - Reunion Tour
 
I hate these lists because this changes daily for me...but these are usually at least in the top 20

Anyone else digging this....
 
 

      Sometimes, things just seem to happen for a reason. The pieces fall into place in unexpected ways, and life takes a turn no one could have predicted. This rings strikingly true for the solo career of Memphis, Tennessee's Julien Baker.   For years, Baker and a group of close friends have performed as the band Forrister (formerly The Star Killers), but when college took her four hours away, her need to continue creating found an outlet through solo work. The intent was never to make these songs her main focus, yet the process proved to be startlingly cathartic. As each song came into shape, it became more apparent that Baker had genuinely deep, surprisingly dark stories to tell from her thus far short life (she turns 20 this Fall). Tales of her experiences are staggering, and when set to her haunting guitar playing, the results are gut wrenching and heartfelt, relatable yet very personal.  There’s something wonderfully hypnotizing about Baker gently confessing her soul with such tremendous honesty.   At the prompting of a friend, Baker ventured to Richmond, Virginia to record a number of her new songs at Spacebomb Studios. The tracks from this session were circulated among Baker's friends, meeting high praise and lots of encouragement for the songs to see a proper release. Soon, she found a home on 6131 Records’ increasingly diverse roster, and plans were made to release her debut full length, Sprained Ankle.   To call Sprained Ankle a happy accident would be misleading as to the nature of these poignant, emotive songs. Yet no one, least of all Baker, could have predicted she'd be releasing an album, especially as a solo artist. Thankfully, now the world will be able to share in her passion and sorrow.   Julien Baker's Sprained Ankle will be released on October 23rd via 6131 Records.   PRESSING INFO: 1st Press 100 - White Vinyl 300 - Blue Vinyl 600 - Clear Vinyl   Includes download of the entire LP (link will be emailed to you no later than 10/23).

I don't know about you guys but I think other than Cigarettes and Saints, The Bluest Things on Earth is probably my favorite song on the album...holy shit is it a jammer!

Finally after 9 years of hard work I finally achieved my goal of being a teacher...I'm 3 weeks in and loving it...
The fact that my incredible wife is also a teacher is just a giant bonus!
 
Congrats man! Marriage is fucking awesome!

Finally after 9 years of hard work I finally achieved my goal of being a teacher...I'm 3 weeks in and loving it...
The fact that my incredible wife is also a teacher is just a giant bonus!
 
Congrats man! Marriage is fucking awesome!

Finally after 9 years of hard work I finally achieved my goal of being a teacher...I'm 3 weeks in and loving it...
The fact that my incredible wife is also a teacher is just a giant bonus!
 
Congrats man! Marriage is fucking awesome!