jerseydave77 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 This release had two threads. Way back in 2012 the man himself came into the other to give an update: http://boards.vinylcollective.com/topic/76880-old-canes-shapeshifter-kickstarter/page-3 Must realize no one will buy the bullshit after buying it once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Hahaha, I had once again forgotten all about this. Still in for $15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 sigh... maybe someday more like "low level ripoff" amirite? jerseydave77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashbum86 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Yeah I think at this point this project would cost him more than its worth. It's not like he has the $4300 sitting in an account. So just the cost to record and send product would cost at least that much. Like you all have said honesty would be nice( and maybe free Appleseed tixs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrewest Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I just read this whole thread, and I can't believe Kickstarter doesn't have some type of protection plan to cover this type of thing. You'd think it'd be pretty bad for business for Kickstarter to just let people get screwed like this without some type of guarantee. Or maybe they just figure it's on you if you are putting faith into something & it doesn't work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 The small print is that the way Kickstarter works is you're not buying a product but acting as a venture capitalist in a business endeavor. Just like in business, there are no guarantees that you'll see a return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviex2shoes Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 So I emailed him directly at [email protected] and asked him for a refund, and told him basically people are upset and feel cheated. This was his response: "I will do so right away. It will be sent from mcmcyo my wife's Paypal, just so you recognize it. Sorry this has dragged out so long. CC" That was earlier this morning, so I'm still waiting to see if I get the refund. Maybe the route to go if you backed and just are tired of thinking this will happening and probably never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Not even an " its still in the works if you want to hang in there"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Not even an " its still in the works if you want to hang in there"? that was my first thought as well--has he just completely thrown in the towel on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 It's been a few months. Figure I'll torture a few folks with a bump. Ha ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 So I emailed him directly at [email protected] and asked him for a refund, and told him basically people are upset and feel cheated. This was his response: "I will do so right away. It will be sent from mcmcyo my wife's Paypal, just so you recognize it. Sorry this has dragged out so long. CC" That was earlier this morning, so I'm still waiting to see if I get the refund. Maybe the route to go if you backed and just are tired of thinking this will happening and probably never will. Did you get your money back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youinreverse Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 It's been a few months. Figure I'll torture a few folks with a bump. Ha ha ha.You monster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterrod Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Haha. NEVER FORGET. jerseydave77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 You know, I too want to know if you got your money back Steve. Fill us in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Forget it. Found your comment on Kickstarter: Stephen on July 1Emailed me and said you'd be sending me a refund...never got that. Hope you spent the couple thousand dollars you earned on this project that fans supported wisely. Can this be defined as theft or better yet embezzlement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 i can't believe nobody has asked him about this at an appleseed cast show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 i can't believe nobody has asked him about this at an appleseed cast show. i want to. seeing them in october. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Well, if you do see him, please ask for my $15. I'll reimburse you the cost of a stamp so you can send it to me. Ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviex2shoes Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Well, if you do see him, please ask for my $15. I'll reimburse you the cost of a stamp so you can send it to me. Ha ha. Yeah, he said his wife was going to send me funds, and never did. Also never responded to other emails, doesn't respond on facebook or on kickstarter either. This guy is a douche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 i want to. seeing them in october. please do. I chatted with him a bit before this fiasco, and he was pretty easily accessible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotfactory Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I still bitch about this about once every three months to somebody. The Appleseed Cast is one of my favorite bands, but this whole fiasco has really tainted my opinion of Chris. At least it was only $15 (doesn't make it right, it just means I didn't loose TOO much money). Fucking Crisci. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 This guy is a douche. Pretty sure this is the general feeling at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviex2shoes Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 HOLY SHIT! I just want to know who got him to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourfourtwo Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 HOLY SHIT: AN EMAIL Yes I think about this every day. Yes that is accompanied by the feeling of failure and shame. I work on it every chance I get. Going into it I had six songs recorded and two with lyrics. I thought no sweat, I'll turn out the lyrics no problem. After listening to them I was not satisfied and started re-writing. Concurrent with that, because there is no choice in the matter, almost all of my time is devoted to working my day job and paid side gigs to provide for my family, I have very little time to devote to music at all. Going into this I was not expecting how much creative time I would lose. I would not have done a kickstarter had I known it would take this long. It weighs on me constantly. Despite that, Old Canes is still something close to my heart and I want to put this ahead of every other musical effort in my life. I said it when Illumination Ritual was released, the next thing I put out will be this. I'm not going to release anything by Appleseed Cast or any other project, until I have turned this into something I am excited about and finish it. I apologize to everyone for how long this has taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Whoa! He responded to my Kickstarter message: Yes I think about this every day. Yes that is accompanied by the feeling of failure and shame. I work on it every chance I get. Going into it I had six songs recorded and two with lyrics. I thought no sweat, I'll turn out the lyrics no problem. After listening to them I was not satisfied and started re-writing. Concurrent with that, because there is no choice in the matter, almost all of my time is devoted to working my day job and paid side gigs to provide for my family, I have very little time to devote to music at all. Going into this I was not expecting how much creative time I would lose. I would not have done a kickstarter had I known it would take this long. It weighs on me constantly. Despite that, Old Canes is still something close to my heart and I want to put this ahead of every other musical effort in my life. I said it when Illumination Ritual was released, the next thing I put out will be this. I'm not going to release anything by Appleseed Cast or any other project, until I have turned this into something I am excited about and finish it. I apologize to everyone for how long this has taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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