nothingnatural Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Photos of deluxe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Matador already posted photos of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Based on what you said happened I think you have your answer to that question The photo also showed a reel tape. So its not like CD's are there only source for vinyl mastering but I didn't like that it was an option at all. Here's the photo: http://www.furnacemfg.com/Downloads/VinylProcessPoster_PRINTABLE.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I have a lot of Furnace stuff including some test pressings and all of them sound great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 The photo also showed a reel tape. So its not like CD's are there only source for vinyl mastering but I didn't like that it was an option at all. Here's the photo: http://www.furnacemfg.com/Downloads/VinylProcessPoster_PRINTABLE.pdf There's nothing shady about it. They explained why the CD was there, then when you persisted, they chose to ignore you. They press onto vinyl whatever the person ordering the job gives them to press. I get the concern, I like my audio quality as much or more than the next vinyl fan. But the fact is, a lot of CD or lesser quality stuff has been pressed onto vinyl because that's what a plant was paid to do. Get upset at the labels and bands, not Furnace. With what Furnace can control, I think they are one of, if not the best pressing facility. This release looks great. Top quality all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 You're definitely right that the label would be to blame in that scenario. I just wanted them to acknowledge it. Maybe I was a dick. Either way, I have plenty of Furnace manufactured stuff and it all looks and sounds great. It was really just the principle of it that bugged me. There may have been one or two that I was not super impressed with the sound but overall the stuff I have from them is great. I still hope that they were supplied with a lossless studio master for this release especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I don't think you were being a dick. Furnace is not going to divulge negative info that could lose them further contracts, if there is negative info to divulge. Unfortunately, unless the info on source is out there, it's best just to assume the worst or take a neutral stance and listen to the record yourself to judge. Given that most of us regular music lovers don't really know what goes on behind the curtain, I'm starting to take the "ignorance is bliss" route and just judge for myself. I in no way am saying I can tell whether a digital or analog master was used, but I think I have an ear that I feel comfortable with to judge for myself if I think a record sounds good. I, too, hope that this was done right, but ultimately, that's up to Josh Homme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Amen to that! I also don't claim to be able to necessarily tell whether a record has been cut using the CD or digital master but I feel like I can usually hear it if its tape. Who knows, though. At this point I accept that some will be digital masters but I think that it is definitely cheating your customers if you cut from the retail CD edition of an album for your lacquer. Even if we can't tell, its cheating us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefoxUSSR Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 ..definitely cheating your customers if you cut from the retail CD edition of an album for your lacquer. Even if we can't tell, its cheating us. Specifically it says PMCD... does that imply it's a pre-mastered CD? Perhaps not as dynamically compressed? TBH- CD audio can sound better than an LP if mastered with dynamic range in mind. Typically speaking CDs and digital fomats are mastered as loud as possible so you can listen in most environments whereas LPs can be made with less overall loudness considering they're listened to at home, where it is generally quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrangerwithcandy Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Smooth Sailing is the coolest song this year, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 It appears mine is lost in California.....awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumbercules Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Smooth Sailing is the coolest song this year, no doubt. I want to sex all over the top of this song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 My deluxe arrived today in pristine condition. It is a really, really nice package. The book illustration and layout is really tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvphotoandvideo Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I want to sex all over the top of this song. If I had a tail is a butt shaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum7 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Decided to cave and pick this up today. Couldn't justify the deluxe and picked up the "indie store" one with blue artwork instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Seriously, the book is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Can't stop listening. Album is too good. Smooth Sailing is far and away my favorite. "I blow my load over the status quo" is one of the best lines is recent memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum7 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Can't stop listening. Album is too good. Smooth Sailing is far and away my favorite. "I blow my load over the status quo" is one of the best lines is recent memory. Smooth Sailing sounds like it came off of the Them Crooked Vultures cutting room floor. And that's not a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 It appears mine is lost in California.....awesome. So you're saying that your copy appears missing? In all seriousness, that sucks. I hope it turns up. Just listened to mine and its gonna be grower. I hope so anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancey47 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Oh hell yeah Getting mine tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 So you're saying that your copy appears missing? In all seriousness, that sucks. I hope it turns up. Just listened to mine and its gonna be grower. I hope so anyway. Hopefully not really, but it was supposed to have been delivered here in Hawaii 3 days ago and so far it has hit three cities all along the coast of California. It's like they are looking for a bridge to Hawaii or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vietmam Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I need to get this. Album rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickcook19941 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Got the indie exclusive and I'm very impressed with te packaging. If this is the standard, the deluxe must weigh as much as my leg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfiend Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Still waiting for this album to fully grow on me. After a few listens I think its pretty good but I still like the first 3 records a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Still waiting for this album to fully grow on me. After a few listens I think its pretty good but I still like the first 3 records a lot better. The first three can't be fucked with but I still love this. morfiend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Got the indie exclusive and I'm very impressed with te packaging. If this is the standard, the deluxe must weigh as much as my leg Its heavier than even the JEW Bleed American triple LP jacket. It's a tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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