The Exquisite Death of NK Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 This weekend marks the start my marathon training. Going out for a 10 miler today or tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Did 5 today in a cold ass rain. Wanted to go longer but it was miserable. Not doing that again for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heresyourletter Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Hey guys. I've read this thread and wanted to contribute. I've been working up to a half marathon. Furthest I've ran has been 6 miles at a 9 min pace. I've hit a plateau now. My legs are giving out at around 5 miles. Should I just slow my pace? Any tips will help Also. I'm getting tired of my running playlist and need some new tunes. What do you guys listen to while running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ximperfectx Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Been lurking this thread for a while, but first post also. I'm getting back into solid training following injury and sickness, with my cardio finally back to a reasonable level. Been able to smash out 5KM without walking for a few weeks now and seen my average pace drop from around 4:50/km to just over 4:30 (not my best, but this very happy with my progress thus far). Looking at doing an 8KM race in about a month, but then probably no events until a half marathon in late August. Currently running about 20-25KM a week, but that will increase a little in the next month. Any suggestions as to what sort of runs I should be doing between then and when I start my half-marathon training in mid June - more of the same? Also, heresyourletter, on my 5km runs, I tend to listen to either fast music (Cancer Bats, Pennywise,etc) or music that makes me happy (NFG, Stick To Your Guns). The endorphins tend to take my mind off the pain/fatigue. On long, slow runs, I tend to listen to whatever I feel like that's got a decent beat/rhythm. I tend to listen to a particular artist on each run, rather than shuffle. I created a playlist once, for the last half marathon that I ran and it seemed to work pretty well, but it was pretty much the best of the best of my favourite artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malestudent15 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Hey guys. I've read this thread and wanted to contribute. I've been working up to a half marathon. Furthest I've ran has been 6 miles at a 9 min pace. I've hit a plateau now. My legs are giving out at around 5 miles. Should I just slow my pace? Any tips will help I would say your pace is to fast. Have you run a race recently? I would day slow your pace down and see how you feel. Been lurking this thread for a while, but first post also. I'm getting back into solid training following injury and sickness, with my cardio finally back to a reasonable level. Been able to smash out 5KM without walking for a few weeks now and seen my average pace drop from around 4:50/km to just over 4:30 (not my best, but this very happy with my progress thus far). Looking at doing an 8KM race in about a month, but then probably no events until a half marathon in late August. Currently running about 20-25KM a week, but that will increase a little in the next month. Any suggestions as to what sort of runs I should be doing between then and when I start my half-marathon training in mid June - more of the same? Also, heresyourletter, on my 5km runs, I tend to listen to either fast music (Cancer Bats, Pennywise,etc) or music that makes me happy (NFG, Stick To Your Guns). The endorphins tend to take my mind off the pain/fatigue. On long, slow runs, I tend to listen to whatever I feel like that's got a decent beat/rhythm. I tend to listen to a particular artist on each run, rather than shuffle. I created a playlist once, for the last half marathon that I ran and it seemed to work pretty well, but it was pretty much the best of the best of my favourite artists. Most half marathon plan are 16-18 weeks. So, you should be training for it now. I would just concentrate on increasing volume safely. A long run is a must, a speed work out and the rest easy runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malestudent15 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 The 5k yesterday was pretty rough, the last hill was a killer. Really enjoyed the race and had a good turnout. Finished in 19:51, 5th overall and 1st in my age group. Now I have to get out and do a 6 miler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 2.5 weeks to my first tri. Put i. A nice 5 miles tonight and am building to a 12 miler saturday with a brick workout involving 6 on Sunday. Getting close. I'm thinking my first race will be like preseason but I'm ahead of where i thought id be. Post pics gang as you get out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydmsix Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 With the warm weather finally coming back over the last month, I've been loving getting some decent runs in outside, 3-6 miles and such. Been having terrible shin splints, though, enough to keep me out of running the last week and a half so I can 'heal' a bit which has been tough, especially seeing so many other people out running by me. Never used to get shin splints until last summer, don't know if I need a different kind of shoe (definitely realize this is a major possibility), change my running style, or what. Anyone else encounter this often and have recommendations to alleviate and prevent shin splints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malestudent15 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 With the warm weather finally coming back over the last month, I've been loving getting some decent runs in outside, 3-6 miles and such. Been having terrible shin splints, though, enough to keep me out of running the last week and a half so I can 'heal' a bit which has been tough, especially seeing so many other people out running by me. Never used to get shin splints until last summer, don't know if I need a different kind of shoe (definitely realize this is a major possibility), change my running style, or what. Anyone else encounter this often and have recommendations to alleviate and prevent shin splints? I would go to a specialty running store and see what they say. They will probably put you on a treadmill and watch your running form and be able to help you out. Make sure you bring your shoes with you, cause they can also look at them and see from your shoes if there is enough wear. I've had a pretty good week running so far. Yesterday's long run I though was going to kill me at the beginning. I had the day off so I wanted to try out a different route and miles 2-5 were the worst. The hills were a soul stealer and I was running them faster than I should have been. Thankfully, I was able to gut it out and miles 6-12 were the best series of miles in awhile. Felt really good about my cadence and my stride, I could have kept going, but I wanted to proceed with caution on upping my mileage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malestudent15 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Also, I am not happy about my mileage for April. (shakes fist angrily) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'm never happy with my mileage. Ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malestudent15 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 ha ha, yeah but you do other training on top of your running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Let's talk this weekend and gutting a run out. Today: 1 hour - 6.6 miles (9:05/mi) A slow as shit run but one I'm insanely proud of. I got under 6 hours of sleep for the fourth straight night. I woke up early for a fire department drill where we went into a flashover chamber. Due to a minor mishap I burned my shoulder (I'm fine and mercifully it barely bubbled and just stings). Came home to build legos with my kid. Tired as heck I got out and pushed for a full hour. Slow as can be I just did it. Happy to have the volume and to find I can mentally push like this. Great test. Yesterday was fun: 2 miles 15 mins (7:30/mi) 2 hours on my bike straight after first run. Mostly zone 2 riding. 4 miles straight after the bike - 32 mins (negative split on back two miles) Great workout and one that I need to be doing every weekend for a month before increasing the volume on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyacrash Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Great dedication Dave! As much as I love running I will use close to anything as an excuse to get out of a run if I'm not feeling it. Glad you didn't get hurt in that drill too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowBearToe Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 Let's talk this weekend and gutting a run out. Today: 1 hour - 6.6 miles (9:05/mi) A slow as shit run but one I'm insanely proud of. I got under 6 hours of sleep for the fourth straight night. I woke up early for a fire department drill where we went into a flashover chamber. Due to a minor mishap I burned my shoulder (I'm fine and mercifully it barely bubbled and just stings). Came home to build legos with my kid. Tired as heck I got out and pushed for a full hour. Slow as can be I just did it. Happy to have the volume and to find I can mentally push like this. Great test. Damn, nice dude! Wish you had posted this a few hours earlier, so it would've motivated me haha We went to a BBQ fest (food, beer, music) all day saturday and spent all day yesterday doing touristy sight seeing stuff in DC with our girls, just hanging out and walking around the city. So I've been standing for pretty much 2 days straight. Yesterday was supposed to be a run day for me, and while we were in DC I was still planning on running when I got home. But by the time I got home I was beat and my legs were tired, so I used the "I've been walking around all weekend, that's good right" as an excuse not to run haha If I had seen this around 6 yesterday, I definitely would've been guilted into running haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malestudent15 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 way to get out there and put some miles in Dave. My legs were achy yesterday, but I was still able to get a little speedwork in. Would have liked to get at least one more interval in, but I didn't think it would have been the smartest thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 ^^^ I'm reading up on hill repeats to help strengthen the legs. Do you do them by chance? I have a hard time picturing myself going up and down a hill but if what I'm reading is accurate then I'm dumb not to take the 15 minutes a week mid-run and do them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Let me know what you find out. I'm interested in speed work or hill intervals to help my overall performance but I don't really know where to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malestudent15 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 ^^^ I'm reading up on hill repeats to help strengthen the legs. Do you do them by chance? I have a hard time picturing myself going up and down a hill but if what I'm reading is accurate then I'm dumb not to take the 15 minutes a week mid-run and do them. I usually do hill sprints or hill repeats after a break and I am working on building back up my fitness. Fortunately (or unfortunately however you look at it) all the routes I run have hills on them so I usually don't do specific hill sprints or repeats throughout my training. I would say you should definitely run them. Let me know what you find out. I'm interested in speed work or hill intervals to help my overall performance but I don't really know where to start. I would add in some hill repeats and sprints for a few weeks and then work on some speed workouts. (what races are you running depend on what kind of speed workouts should you run) Right now add some fartlek runs with your regular runs (start out with 4 or 5 speed burst during your easy runs for 15-30 seconds and keep increasing how many and duration the following weeks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 See - I always do rolling runs. I don't see a point in spending time on flats unless it's a treadmill. What I'm reading is very specific to the idea that you should be doing sprints in 10-15 second bursts x10 with recovery time in between to build proper running musculature. Sounds torturous to me. I need to chat with some folks in my local club to see that they are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malestudent15 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Yeah, it is beneficial. That sounds like a hill sprint. Hill sprints are shorter with a higher grade hill. Repeats a longer run with a lower grade hill. Alternate 1 week with hill sprint and then 1 a hill repeat. Also, increase reps each week. I love hills. They make you such a better runner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malestudent15 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I wouldn't do the specific hill workouts every week throughout your training. Just for a few weeks (3 or 4) since your already running hills. Then, after those I would just incorporate hill workouts with your everyday runs each week. Just attack the hills with a little speed and continue on with your run. Dave can you post an elevation chart of your usual route? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I will - when I have my new watch. I made a huge error. I sold my old multi-sport watch to buy the new model with built in HR monitor. Very cool, right? Well, I didn't realize it wasn't coming out for another month now just got bumped into June. So mad at myself. I just bought a used running watch off eBay so that I don't screw up my first and possibly second races this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malestudent15 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 What watch did you go with? I ran a race with my watch, but it died and it was a miserable race. So smart choice on having a backup. I have only ran 1 race with my hr monitor. Thinking about wearing it on my next half, but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I have the new Tom Tom Multisport with built in Heart Rate monitor on order. They have a run specific version coming too - that just means you can't use it to swim or bike (I use a garmin for biking but swimming with a watch is awesome). The Tom Tom are really well priced for the functionality. I hated it when it first came out but the software caught up and for the price you can't beat it. Love it at this point and can't wait to have a wrist based HR. My secondary, which I bought used today, will be here in time for my first race. Can't picture pacing the run in a race without one at this point. Kind of sad in some ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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