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Great price for an insufferably boring album. 

I just listened my black copy from Fnac, sounds great.

I see you're likely referring to this part here:
we have a modest savings as a business to sustain payroll and continue to pay out artist royalties, etc. we also still have cashflow to sustain our day-to-day and continued operation via physical and digital revenue from our distributor, sync placements, etc.. we are exploring options to take out an interest-free advance from our distributor if needed. we have access to up to $33k via a Paypal “Working Capital” loan at a flat fee of $6.3k (19%). we'd like to avoid using this if we can because the fee is so high, but it's there as a last resort should we need it.  
If all those things are real, true statements, then why beg for money from customers via kickstarter and crypto donations? To fight their lawsuit? That should be a consideration when putting aside money for an emergency, and I'm sure in the future they'll take that into consideration.
 
I get that people are really emotionally invested in this. I'm not trying to say that anyone who wants to donate/Kickstart this shouldn't. I'm just very skeptical about this whole thing and I think everyone should stop to think critically about it.
 
From re-reading the statement from Topshelf it looks like there were a lot of red flags that should have forewarned them about this. I understand that they may not have realized what was going on, and it looks like Awesome really did fuck them over, which sucks.  But they also needed to do their own due diligence when things started looking hinky.
 
I want to address some points individually here now:
we have a modest savings as a business to sustain payroll and continue to pay out artist royalties, etc. How much is their modest savings? Is it enough to continue for 1 month? 1 year? Who knows. To me pointing out that it is modest is a quiet way of saying "not much."
we also still have cashflow to sustain our day-to-day and continued operation via physical and digital revenue from our distributor, sync placements, etc.. Digital I get. Sync placements...sure, but I can't imagine that's going to provide a ton. But they're saying they have cashflow via physical (sales I assume) through their distributor. Is that not Awesome distro? Possibly a different distro for non-NA orders? They previously said Awesome owes them money, so I have to assume they expect to bring in cash from somewhere else since that Awesome distro money likely isn't coming.
Edit: I've been corrected on this point. They're talking about physical distribution to record stores handled by Redeye.
we are exploring options to take out an interest-free advance from our distributor if needed. This seems like what I would expect a company to try to do. These are their business partners. This is who they should be going to for money. But again, another distributor? I'll admit I may not understand what they're talking about here.
Edit: again, they're referring to Redye. Doesn't change anything about the first part of this section though.
we have access to up to $33k via a Paypal “Working Capital” loan at a flat fee of $6.3k (19%). we'd like to avoid using this if we can because the fee is so high, but it's there as a last resort should we need it. I looked into how these working capital loans work and the amount you can take is based on your PayPal intake. This doesn't inspire a ton of confidence, because it shows how little they were actually taking in via digital sales and licensing which is where most of that money is coming from, as they mention that Awesome was receiving all paypal funds from physical sales instead of Topshelf being paid directly and then paying their distro/warehouse via invoice.
 
• Awesome also owes us over $40k in revenue they’ve collected on our behalf but have ceased paying or even accounting to us for. our statements are months behind. we’ve made repeated requests over the last half year to reconcile this and have yet to be directly told whether or not we will receive this money at all.
 
6 months of requests to reconcile a decent sum of money is way too long to pretend you didn't know something was going wrong and not get your inventory out of there.
 
• because we can’t currently ship anything, we don’t feel comfortable continuing to accept orders. we have now turned off our stores since we have no idea when we’ll even be able to ship an order again, let alone where it’ll even ship from!
 
This just straight up contradicts what they say about having incoming revenue from physical sales?
 
I just want everyone to think before they immediately jump in due to an emotional connection with the label. The whole thing seems sketchy to me, and I don't like companies begging customers to keep them afloat when they don't have a real plan moving forward and the reasons they've given for the current circumstances seem shaky at best.
 
 
Edit: And you may be right. I may be misreading this and all my skepticism may be misplaced.
I'm not trying to be a dick here, but this whole thing rubs me the wrong way and I think it's important to put that out there. I was trying to avoid a huge drawn out post, but here we are.
Please feel free to correct me anywhere you find issue with my thought process or if I'm misinformed in any of my points.

Record collectors were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.

Mine has an insert as well. Anyone else a little disappointed this isn’t a gatefold? This albums’s art is awesome and I figured they’d run with it. Their pressing of showbread’s no sir is and it was $40 too 

I received one

FYI if you happened to have joined the wait list for Disasterpeace's masterpiece Hyper Light Drifter on iam8bit, emails are being sent out so you can preorder it. I think you can just join the wait list and it might email you a link, but not sure how it's working. Looks like it's up to $100 now (could've sworn it was $60/75 when I purchased mine).

Nah, having an ethical core comes naturally to me. You see, I enjoy not being a degenerate. It's actually really fucking simple. Just, don't be a POS or an enabler of POS. Try it on for size, some time, yourself. See how the rest of your life pans out after. You might like it too.

First of all, don't do this. It normalizes behavior like his. Can't give him a pass just because no one is perfect. At the risk of being #notallmen, you can't apples to apples peoples faults, errors, cruelties or crimes. 
 
Second, this is REALLY minimizing what he is/was accused of. But at the end of the day, its the power dynamics, emotional manipulation, creepy behavior, and flat out mental abuse that people are taking issue with. I HOPE people are pointing this out in their daily lives and not just on twitter or some messageboard. If we want a better society we have to hold people accountable and thats what people seem to be doing with Ryan. 
 
this is bullshit, no one is dogging him when he's not in the news. He's the one writing letters to the daily Mail or agreeing to interviews with LA magazines. And when he pops up, he wants the credit for doing the time, but doesn't want to put in the work. There has been no sincere or thorough mea culpa from him. That article makes it look like he's made some strides, but then when you see his IG meltdowns, you have to question whats really real. 
Do I hope he owns this, tries to make himself better, and be an advocate so he could come back? Absolutely. He's crazy talented. But if you are gonna treat people like shit (which has always been his pattern), do minimal leg work, want the credit and then whine that its others people fault thats keeping you down and not own your own shortcomings, well, you're gonna get called out every time you surface.
 

You’re all a bunch of fucking losers and so is Ryan adams

They arent available for distro order yet but yeah we should be whenever they go up

Someone’s being a little dramatic.  Every thing?  Really?  I think Shelby and myself both partake in positive discussions across numerous threads and releases over the years.  We each occasionally take the piss in meme threads but in my time on VC I sincerely feel like I’ve discussed music and vinyl far, far more than I’ve trolled.  That’s a You problem with your perspective: listen to better artists I guess, maybe you’ll catch me outside of threads for Wasda-core.
 
I rib our resident public flipper, our SRC billboard, and occasionally the local Used troll.  I think that’s about it.  Oh, and ZeroNowhere, but that’s more like sorting a child out whenever he’s throwing a tantrum.  He posts in many threads regularly that I don’t bother prodding at.  But when he shits his pants and throws a tantrum in an effort to call me out, yes.  I say something.  So 3, maybe 4 turds altogether.  And justifiably so, if you ask me.  No new faces asking legit questions.  No newbies showcasing their modest Urban Outfitter collections.  Not even the brand new accounts trying to sell shit at absurd Discogs prices.  I seldom dump on bands I just don’t “get” the hype for [Turnstile].  All things said, I have beef with such a small fraction of this community.  Sorry you have such a gripe with that, maybe hang with a better crowd.
 
I think I also implied Ben was bald/ing, a few weeks ago.  I’d at least log that one on your spreadsheet for future reference.

Splatter secured. Discount code “VC” still works on top shelf after all these years. 

Yeah getting called a fag in high school for something other than sucking dick was pretty common. "Why you brushing your teeth like a fag? Look at that fag sitting with his girlfriend. Nice jacket faggot." Etc.
 
I'm not really sure why they needed to bring that randomness into the thread. Hmm.

Yeah, shipping was trash, but im where I want to be for my collection too.

Disasterpeace latest email says there's a Fez and Hyper Light Drifter OST repress in the works.

My best guess is that it’s because Green Day fuckin’ sucks. 

New Wode coming out on 20 Buck Spin, pre order late Feb
https://listen.20buckspin.com/album/burn-in-many-mirrors

That is crazy, but good for her if people will buy it. I'll wait for Profound Lore to repress. It's grown on me over time, but wouldn't spin it often.

This record is just not that good to justify the hype, I just don't get it 

there is interesting artist wackadoo and there is going on alex jones and talking about lizard people wackadoo. hopefully people can understand the difference.

Wait, you mean he hasn't always been a wackadoo? 

https://shop.udiscovermusic.com/collections/vinyl
Tons of titles 30% off plus comeback promo code for another 20% off!!

Hey Album! please! Readysexgo while they're at it. 

Hey Album! please! Readysexgo while they're at it.