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Tool were my favourite band for a very long time I probably considered them as such up until 10,000 days was released (and wasn't anywhere near the 2 previous albums imo)...
Anywho the way they are going about releasing this new album is actually really pissing me off, I was only probably 25% chance to consider purchasing it in any form, I'm now at 0% 
 
Tool are now a parody of themselves any one buying a 'deluxe limited' physical version of this is as stupid as people who believe in god...

Yeah, super fucked up they're leaving some content off the only official physical release at this point. Not that I was planning to buy that bullshit anyway.

The vinyl release is going to be some $60 laser-etched garbage that projects hexagram patterns and third eye bullshit when it’s spun under the perfect lighting.  No music; that comes on the included download card.

The only one that's whack to me is "Chocolate Chip Trip." What's truly whack is the way they felt the need to split the album between a single CD and supplement the full experience with digital only content instead of just doing a 2xCD and also instead deciding to putting all the package money toward a fuckin' mini-HDTV. Eat MY ass.

I am with you guys after one listen.  This thing just dragged on.
 
The replay value due to its length is what might kill this for me

Weird record. Its a bit TOS and a bit Damaged Bug. The 3 long tracks bog it down.  

Holy shit. Is this where all the Brand New fans went after they apparently called it quits?

Can we keep this thread unlocked please? I want to know if any info on vynulz comes out. Thanks!

Sooooo...let me understand this. 
 
Dude walks in here and gives his honest & lengthy opinion & review of the song as a fan of the band, and people are giving him shit & calling him pretentious?!?! 
 
Get the fuck out of here with that shitty attitude. He’s a fan who loves the band & expressed his appreciation.  If you don’t like it, take your toxic bashing somewhere else. 
 
Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate. 
 
 

kinda blowing my mind that I was 30 when 10,000 Days came out. 

I find it really weird. I have not listened to "Fear Inoculum" yet. I've heard "Invincible" and "Descending" live in person and on some super high quality live bootlegs on YouTube. I think compositionally in terms of song structure, those two songs feels Lateralus-styled but progressed from that point of composition. It did not really feel like a continuation of 10,000 Days. Obviously each player has their own signature style but I think its doing oneself a great disservice to not attempt to look past the surface of the sound the band has and find the subtle uniqueness that each song builds using those same ingredients. If you half-listen to any of their songs waiting for a special guest to come in and do a hook and flip the whole dynamic of the core band on its head, you're listening to the wrong band. If you're looking for traditional tropes of a growing and changing artist or band that is led by a single songwriter who decides now we have a fiddle and an accordion on this track and then we have a piano leading these two tracks and we're ex-Beatles who are writing 3 minute pop songs, you're listening to the wrong band. These guys paint with the same brushes and explore how to make new textures using the same types of voices and the same exact instrumentation for the most part on every album. They go in a room and follow eachother's lead for a hours on end and construct "songs" using the parts they liked best from the improvised communications they share using essentially the same 3 to 4 instruments, the electric of which are generally dialed into to produce the same types of sounds as they've made for all the albums they've done together. They may progress in some ways on their own instruments but they have their established voices. If you're not coming to Tool with this realization and you don't find yourself interested in how they will paint the soundscape under these particular circumstantial/instrumental constants then I don't know why you would keep expecting to be wowed only to be let down. We all know how Tool writes. We know the process. We know the instruments. You have to be looking at their output from the standpoint of knowing the limitations of what's included.
 
Not mad. Just sayin'.

My thoughts exactly. Undertow, Aenima, and Lateralus are distinctly different, even though I recall the lead singles for Aenima and Lateralus at the time having a familiar-sounding, "this sounds like a previous track" guitar riff. Same of course when "Vicarious" was released prior to 10,000 Days, but that album was the first to not feel like much of an evolution. 
 
I guess others have said it by this point, but I don't know anyone wishing for 10,000 Days part 2. I enjoyed the album when it came out but it was the first lukewarm Tool album for me.
 
I haven't played the album in ages, but that was the highlight for me.

A lot of people cite Lateralus as their crown jewel but for a first-time listener, I always thought it’d be a little dense.  For me, Ænima is where it’s at.  Timeless production, incredibly bass-drum interplay, memorable interludes, and at least one guaranteed 10/10 moment on every (actual) song.  It’s really held up for me.

I second the banhammer. Feels like the wild west if dudes like that are able to just run amok in here. 
 
Aenima is a completely flawless album IMO but it also hits me in a nostalgic place given where I was in life/age when it was released. 

I am an old man with surround sound and a BluRay player, but isn’t this roughly how an entire generation consumes most of their visual media?

Very middle of the road track. Certainly sounds like 1990's Tool, though I'm not sure that's a good thing in 2019....
Trying to not get caught up in my HS nostalgia and measure it against those albums.

The video could very easily just be some shitty Instagram loop of the album art.  Like a 2-3 second animation that cycles endlessly.  I think that if anyone is expecting a fully designed visual experience to be played alongside the album, they may be disappointed.  Also more power to you for staring at 4” screen for 85 minutes, if that’s your thing.

As much as I love Tool, honestly I don't give a shit about this deluxe version, I couldn't care less about that HD screen thingy, I just want the music and if possible vinyl as well. Easy pass

I guess it depends on when you became a Tool fan.  Anyone whose entry point was Lateralus seems to love 10,000 Days or at least doesn't think it's bad.  

After the progression from Undertow > Aenima > Laterlaus, the expected progress for 10,000 Days was pretty huge.  When it dropped and ended up being basically a Lateralus b-sides record, people were disappointed.  I mean, for at least a couple of weeks people thought they were fake songs.

Whaaaat?? News to me. It's by far my fav album of theirs. I didn't realize people thought this.

I thought most people disliked 10,000 Days. And this track sounds exactly like 10,000 Days part 2 to me. 

I really hope no one wants 10,000 Days part 2 because it’s their worst album.

I'm lukewarm on the song, but am interested in hearing the full album to understand it in context. I just have to accept that this is what Tool sounds like post-Aenima. Sometimes it feels like their music is being written by AI... I just wish they would feed some songs from Undertow into the machine.

Crazyfuck cd/screen/speaker/charger/dildo/analbead version up on amazon now.  No tracklist but there's a paragraph to describe what the fuck the package is comprised of.
 
$44.98 for this monstrosity. 

Saw this elsewhere...gave me a chuckle