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Newmoon have a new song out: 
Preorders for their new album:
US: https://store.pias.com/release/423787-newmoon-temporary-light
EU: https://newmoontheband.com/
 
 

Looks like the UK version has a couple copies posted:
 
https://sumerianmerch.co.uk/collections/circasurvive/products/circa-survive-violent-waves-easter-yellow-process-blue-side-a-b-w-black-splatter
 
Password: CREATURECLUB2022

I mean, someone from the music scene actually died and a music-driven forum is taking a moment to share their thoughts and say a few words about it.  It would take a real piece of shit to stumble in and make that moment about their own personal beef.
Reminder: you were banned for a week because you’re an easily-titled troll with a temper tantrum.  That’s a personal problem.  You don’t get to take that out on the forum’s staff.  Instead of trying to start shit on a Sunday, maybe go outside and enjoy some fresh air for once.  Or call up one of the very few people who can somehow tolerate you in person, and refresh yourself on how human interactions should work.  The internet has rotted your brain.  Absolute embarrassment of a man.

1-2-3-4 Go! Sent me this reply: "Hello! XL Recordings is making new replacement discs, I'd suggest emailing them and they should be able to send you one!" Then they provided this email address: [email protected]
 
I sent XL a message this morning, I'll let you know if I hear anything.

Same here.  My label was created on the 29th and it just started moving today.  Hoping there isn’t 2 Kid A’s in mine.

I’ll get back to you on this, haven’t had the chance to listen proper to both discs the whole way through

oh wow, that’s a real bummer because the extra disc is the main reason of purchase 

interesting, I got a shipping notification on 10/29 and the USPS tracking status is still "Shipping Label Created, USPS Awaiting Item"
 
ETA: Asked about it and they're shipping out today, sounds like they only got a very small amount initially and have been waiting for the rest of their allocation  to finally show up, which they did yesterday.
 
If you're looking for a shipping notice, mine showed up with the subject "Todd Robinson has sent you a package" and made no mention of Luna at all, I had to piece together what it was for.

1.  Glad you got your Luna purchase because I purchased from there too and haven’t received any shipping notifications.  
 
2.  Sucks that you didn’t get the third LP
 
3.  Since I ordered from there too maybe I have the opposite problem and if so I’ll contact you about it

I feel dumb reading this post. I can't figure out what you are trying to say. 
 
The red 3LP is $60. The deluxe edition is $120 plus $15 shipping. 

Am I the only one who just cares about the music? I am a strong believer that art is separate from the artist. I don't listen to Ryan Adams' music or anyone else's music for that matter because I like and/or dislike the artist behind it. I listen to it for the ART. 
 
Clearly, everyone here isn't even arguing about his art/music. They're arguing about HIM. Who gives a shit about what the fuck this dude does in his personal life. I didn't care before and I don't care now. Again, that's not why I listen to his or anyone else's music. 
 
What are you guys doing before you check out a new artist?? Going to their wiki page or digging deep to try to figure out if they are a good enough person in their personal life so that you can feel better about listening to their music or enjoying their art??? Are you?? No - didn't think so. 
 
Hopefully I can check back on this thread and it's for a pre-order link for Blackhole. 

Judging by the timeline of their synthwave record, and now xXoriginsXx, I can't wait for "Blakk Holez n Revalation$" to come with exclusive JNCOs

Lead single has a vibe that works for an 8 track
 

 
 

I think it is so fucking funny this dude is supporting an outspoken liberal artist (Ryan Adams) while also using Biden’s sexual assault accusations as a knock against liberalism while again also supporting someone with sexual abuse allegations against him (Ryan Adams). 
 
Brilliant. 

Credit where it’s due Timbr has been consistent with his POV for the past 2 years. 
 
but looking for ideological purity in a vinyl collectors forum in a thread about Ryan Adams just seems like a lost cause. 
 
people got tired of him being a jerk. They got tired of him. The end. 

He's so fucking stupid it's hilarious

Oof Timbr. Seems like you had a busy night. nice to see you around.
 
I mean, this isn't the thread for this conversation and its a super weird thing to bring up, but best I can recall it WAS looked into by the media and as they dug into further, the story fell apart. I don't know if its true or not, but it should have been examined by authorities and the media and it appears to have been. 
 
That being said, the media being in the bag for biden is such horseshit. 1. The media would have loved nothing more for a story like that to be true in terms of eyes and ears on them as that story was dovetailing with the end of the impeachment stuff. 2. Why would the media WANT Biden, who will be normal and boring, as opposed to Trump who has 5 stories about him and his antics a day? 
 
But can liberals be hypocrites? Absolutely . So can conservatives and independents. Basically, everyone can be terrible.  
Also, cancel culture isn't real. Like, its not really a thing. Its a buzzy phrase for when someone fucks up and they lose fans. Literally anyone can come back, it really comes down to if a majority of people think you deserve it. And expecting people to be better than what are the current norms is what makes society better. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
also, super weird to hold Alyssa Milano up as the paragon of liberalism.
 

I think it is so fucking funny this dude is supporting an outspoken liberal artist (Ryan Adams) while also using Biden’s sexual assault accusations as a knock against liberalism while again also supporting someone with sexual abuse allegations against him (Ryan Adams). 
 
Brilliant. 

I think what you're saying is that if someone is truly principled about "cancelling' an artist based on that artist's misconduct, why should it matter whether the music is good or lousy?
 
I think ntslash is candidly acknowledging that it's much easier to stick to your principles if you don't feel like you're sacrificing that much. 

But separating the art from the artist means one should not inform the other. You're listening to the music first and then grading the ease of your cancellation based on the art.

You can pretty much single out every classic rock band for sexual misconduct on one level or another. That’s what I hate about everyone singling out RA is, the music industry has been mostly free of the #metoo era criticisms even though it has been rife with sexual misconduct forever. Bowie raped 2 15 year olds, I’m assuming you aren’t listening to his music anymore? Led Zeppelin of course was well known to sleep with underage girls etc. 
 
im not saying it’s right. It’s in fact very fucked up.
 But the music has always been separate to me. It’s meant something to me separate from who the artists are as individual people, if that makes sense? 

You can pretty much single out every classic rock band for sexual misconduct on one level or another. That’s what I hate about everyone singling out RA is, the music industry has been mostly free of the #metoo era criticisms even though it has been rife with sexual misconduct forever. Bowie raped 2 15 year olds, I’m assuming you aren’t listening to his music anymore? Led Zeppelin of course was well known to sleep with underage girls etc. 
 
im not saying it’s right. It’s in fact very fucked up.
 But the music has always been separate to me. It’s meant something to me separate from who the artists are as individual people, if that makes sense? 

This is my point exactly. People are going to make their own decisions based on their own moral compass. We could go on all day with examples. Some people may shun the Beatles music because John Lennon was an admitted domestic abuser. Legions of others haven't let that get in the way of enjoying the Beatles. While I've taken Ryan Adams out of my rotation, I'm not about to get confrontational with peeps who can still get something enjoyable from his records.

I honestly respect the hell out of you for this. Some of those bands music has meant too much to me to have been able to disown it. But we must actively challenge and call out these people.

I actually don’t listen to any of those bands anymore. Same goes with Brand New, Michael Jackson, and even idiots like Smash Mouth for playing a show during pandemic.
 
I just find other bands or artists that scratch the itch for me. When I hear songs like “Nobody Girl,” it really gets hard for me to relate to it like I did in the past. Instead, I’ve gotten into bands like centro-matic, or war on drugs, that resonate with me in the same way that his music did.
 
Same goes for, let’s say... “Pretty Young Thing,” by Michael Jackson.  I just can’t. But, instead of separating the music from the artist, I turn to the millions of artists out there NOT guilty of molesting children or soliciting nudes from underage people.
 
Hell, I even bail on bands and artists that behave abusively toward people. Sure, it may not be illegal, but I’m not gonna support and relate to an artist that objectifies his “friends,” dangles fame in exchange for sex (even if they do take the bait, it’s cringey), and belittles them when they don’t reciprocate? It’s just gross, and I can’t help but think about it when he’s crying in his lyrics about “look what I did to youuuu, look what you did to meeee.” 
 
Absolutely to each their own, but I think it’s fascinating to see that fans don’t realize he’s also very abusive toward them. Like someone said earlier, it’s kinda crazy how similar his behavior resembles that giant orange that just lost an election. Maybe there’s something to that?