andables Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 also this was a deep elm release, aren't they notorious for charging a lot to give the rights to use their releases? drds89 and jrodan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 also this was a deep elm release, aren't they notorious for charging a lot to give the rights to use their releases? not really. jrodan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 we can all agree that business models are different from label to label right? I mean, I am sure you are well aware of all the expenses that went into each labels bottom line, but I tend to think that perhaps I don't know how much rent each label pays for its space. or how much each pressing cost the label per unit. or even more basic, how much each label needs to sell a record for to break even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 not really. what? they totally are. every single person who has tried to license a record from deep elm has given testimonial to how unrealistic they were in their expectations. it is why so many classic deep elm albums were never pressed, or took so long to get pressed. drds89 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfiend Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 what? they totally are. every single person who has tried to license a record from deep elm has given testimonial to how unrealistic they were in their expectations. it is why so many classic deep elm albums were never pressed, or took so long to get pressed. On the flip side, Everything Deep Elm has ever released can be downloaded for free on their bandcamp page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 On the flip side, Everything Deep Elm has ever released can be downloaded for free on their bandcamp page. for sure. just makes their apprehension to license out titles at a fair price for physical releases that much odder. drds89 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiatorhums Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 also this was a deep elm release, aren't they notorious for charging a lot to give the rights to use their releases? Ryan over at Graveface alluded to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 what? they totally are. every single person who has tried to license a record from deep elm has given testimonial to how unrealistic they were in their expectations. it is why so many classic deep elm albums were never pressed, or took so long to get pressed.ive never heard they're too expensive and that wasn't my experience. There's a mess of other reasons why I'd never work with deep elm again, but licensing cost wasn't one of them. andables 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 interesting. well since you aren't going to be detailed about your experience, I don't really see what you are saying as contradictory to the point being made. but thanks for your first person insight. it is certainly more than I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Nit really defending the price, but the harder you have to work with someone and the more time you have to put into a project, the more you have to/want to charge. Sucks that Deep Elm are so tough to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 interesting. well since you aren't going to be detailed about your experience, I don't really see what you are saying as contradictory to the point being made. but thanks for your first person insight. it is certainly more than I have. last time i was more detailed about it, i started getting harassed. i'll leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 who harassed you? that shit is hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Nit really defending the price, but the harder you have to work with someone and the more time you have to put into a project, the more you have to/want to charge. Sucks that Deep Elm are so tough to work with. licensing and releasing someone else's work isn't too difficult. i think that's my biggest issue with these ETR prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 who harassed you? that shit is hilarious. who do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetDramaKing17 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I'll prob get this just cuz Appleseed. But I don't like any of these songs. Kinda why they were left off. But I'm glad to see them selling stuff, they deserve success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I don't keep up with board fights enough to know. anyway, I will leave it alone. I appreciate your perspective on the matter since you actually tried to license something from deep elm. all that being said, I still do not see the issue with the price. high end of what I would like to pay? no doubt. but times change and costs increase. this album of b-sides/this band is more than worth it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyFrosted Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I think 20 dollars for a 180 gram colored record is pretty reasonable these days, but that would be my opinion. I dunno if I'd throw down if that record was B-Sides, but in my experience only a handful of bands have B-sides and demos that are worth a damn, so that's where that feeling comes for me. It would really depend on the band. Strong fans of Appleseed probably won't have a problem paying that. Some would argue that therein lies the problem - people charge that much because they know people will pay it, even if those people think it isn't a fair price. I'm guilty of that too. Hell, if Caddywhompus put out a colored deluxe 200-gram of themselves taking shits I'd probably buy it. I will say (and you acknowledged this) that it's silly to say that the days of the $12-$14 LP are gone, because that's absolutely untrue and several labels stick to those kinds of prices. You might get just a cheap cardboard sleeve with no extra inserts on plain black vinyl, but you're getting the music so who cares. somethingvinyl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I care, because when I am buying a record I am buying the music and aesthetic. if I was just buying the music my collection would be solely digital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyFrosted Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Well, that's your bag, I guess. Just be aware that saying something like that is inviting a whole host of lectures about dynamic range, vinyl masters, 'kids these days', 'waiting for the bubble to burst' etc etc I can feel a disturbance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 my bag? is anyone buying records purely for the music? because if so, I would like to sell them a lot of other totally inconvenient items that do something that can be done for way cheaper by something else. eight1echo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 my bag? is anyone buying records purely for the music? because if so, I would like to sell them a lot of other totally inconvenient items that do something that can be done for way cheaper by something else. I buy records mostly for the music. I like nice packaging and colored variants, but I'm mostly buying to listen. It's the primary way I listen to music actually. As much as I love really nice packaging, I prefer a bare bones $12 release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 fair enough. I had not considered such a perspective. my bad. in closing, good luck to everyone getting what they want out of the record collecting experience. clearly there are many different ways to go about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 They fixed the pricing on the bundle with LLO 1 & 2. Four LPs for $54 shipped, that's a price I can live with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Can any one comment on the quality of this Low Level Owl pressing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drds89 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Can any one comment on the quality of this Low Level Owl pressing? It is my playing copy and I own all 4 variants - no issues at all - not inferior to the Black. My tricolor and silver RC # were previously owned. I bought the Lost Songs vinyl and CS. My experience with BigSchool / Matt on LLO was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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