Team Avatar Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I think we should keep this open but I'm sure my opinion is not a surprise. This thread does not having people making jokes in light of the incidents and it's informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 fuuuuucccckkkkkkk neck deep and fuuuckkkk pop punki did a quick google search, and the remaining members seem to be handling it appropriately. but yeah, their music sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Avatar Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/neck_deep_respond_to_allegations for current standing on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aflycon Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 That's it. It's time for a fucking moratorium on pop punk. Just fuckin shut it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 That's it. It's time for a fucking moratorium on pop punk. Just fuckin shut it down. If this was the NCAA PPP punk would get the death penalty due to a lack of organizational control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 That's it. It's time for a fucking moratorium on pop punk. Just fuckin shut it down. If this was the NCAA Pop punk would get the death penalty due to a lack of organizational control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Poor pop punk. If only there were someone to defend it. No This Is Patrick and emacs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvv Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Poor pop punk. If only there were someone to defend it.kids 13-15 are willing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock N Roll Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 The Defend Pop Punk group on Facebook is truly one of the worst things on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 kids 13-15 are willing Yes, that's the joke. Also let's not pretend there aren't kids in their late teens/early 20s still into that shit. Then when they're almost 30 they buy the vinyl because nostalgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 i thought it was just one shit bag in the band, and the others had asked him to leave. I guess I was expecting too much of them. I'm not surprised though, pop punk is 90% bros in snap backs who are one tribal tattoo away from being that ass hole high school jock (I think Evan Weiss tweeted this at one point), and a bunch of them seem to think that since they're in touch with their artistic side they can't possibly do any harm to anyone, or they think they're above it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanRees Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Maybe the thread title should be changed to boycott pop punk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I think people have to take a long hard look at why things like this are increasingly happening in this scene. Why do bands or band members think they can use the guitar around their neck as an invitation to violate a woman? People can laugh about the Riot Girl and Girls Up Front reaction fostered in the 90s - and certainly creeps existed - but they certainly knew they weren't welcome. Similar to how when I was a kid a wicked Neo-Nazi faction existed that is now by and large gone - it takes action and sometimes very forceful, direct and uncomfortable action. This isn't my scene but those of you that are fostering it are due for a swift and radical shift in attitude and direction. Don't wait for someone else to dictate it, take control and foster the environment you want to remember not the bullshit. People can laugh about some of the insane shit and bands we supported in the 90s but like fuck if there was a person in that room that wasn't welcomed and comfortable. Good luck gang. Fuck the internet tirades and create the venues you want, create the music you want to hear and be among the people you want to love and support. daegor, Shitty Rambo, futures and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Incredibly well put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 i did a quick google search, and the remaining members seem to be handling it appropriately. but yeah, their music sucks. Nope. Allegations against other members, giving excuses for why he's not in the band, no apologies to the victims. Fuck them. Break up and never play music again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Looks like they're neck deep in shit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Nope. Allegations against other members, giving excuses for why he's not in the band, no apologies to the victims. Fuck them. Break up and never play music again.read my last post lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheart Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Since this has turned into a catch all for sexual abuse/underage/rape for the scene I have a few questions regarding bigger people in the scene. Why doesnt anyone bat an eye at Pete Wentz even though he dated a 15 year old when he was 23? I doubt anyone is going to be supporting FPS or Neck Deep in 10 years because of what they did now, but we are giving Wentz a pass for what he did 10 years ago. Also, what about Jesse Lacey and those really creepy MeVsMaradonnaVsElvis lyrics? I always thought that song was more personal than it was about others who act that way, especially when looked at in context with the whole album deals about personal shortcomings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 http://killtobeyourclothes.tumblr.com/post/38064690597/codeaires-indie-wendy-darling-the-jeanae-white I had to look up the Pete went thing and found this. Scrolled down to the comments and saw one that seemed to clarify the timeline a little better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvv Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Since this has turned into a catch all for sexual abuse/underage/rape for the scene I have a few questions regarding bigger people in the scene. Why doesnt anyone bat an eye at Pete Wentz even though he dated a 15 year old when he was 23? I doubt anyone is going to be supporting FPS or Neck Deep in 10 years because of what they did now, but we are giving Wentz a pass for what he did 10 years ago. Also, what about Jesse Lacey and those really creepy MeVsMaradonnaVsElvis lyrics? I always thought that song was more personal than it was about others who act that way, especially when looked at in context with the whole album deals about personal shortcomings.same reason why neck deep still has supporters, pop punk is full of lame people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konk Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Who has Hemingway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 i had no idea about pete wentz. that link didnt work btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Fixed my link but now I can't find the comment. Basically it said she started coming to shows / hanging out when she was 15 but didn't start dating for a few years. Her parents would even come to shows too. They didn't date until after tttyg came out so the songs aren't about her. And he never dated ashlee and her at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konk Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I saw that. Didn't believe it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Since this has turned into a catch all for sexual abuse/underage/rape for the scene I have a few questions regarding bigger people in the scene. Why doesnt anyone bat an eye at Pete Wentz even though he dated a 15 year old when he was 23? I doubt anyone is going to be supporting FPS or Neck Deep in 10 years because of what they did now, but we are giving Wentz a pass for what he did 10 years ago. Also, what about Jesse Lacey and those really creepy MeVsMaradonnaVsElvis lyrics? I always thought that song was more personal than it was about others who act that way, especially when looked at in context with the whole album deals about personal shortcomings.AP thread has recently discussed the whole Pete thing. It's gross. And the misogynistic lyrics on that (and many early 2000s pop punk) are gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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