jailhouse Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Why would anyone knowingly pre-order something that hasn't even gone into production? That's the stupidest thing for a customer, or a label to do. Basically what they are doing, is taking overpriced donations, until they have enough money to fund some projects, and then placing the order. Plants are all backed up nowdays, any label knows to consider around a 4 month lead time between lacquer cut and delivery. This is essentially what Virgil was doing. Give a bunch of money now, and one day, sometime in the future, we'll give you your record. Is this stuff actually looked kindly upon on here? I have a few records I don't have the money to press yet, should I put up a pre-order first, and wait till I have the money and then press it on other peoples dime and make instant profit. I've never been critical of this label, but damn. They seem like smart guys, but I guess they are either broke as hell, or want to do only risk free projects on guaranteed profitable releases. Seems much less of a music fan than a simple money making venture. I guess I'll do pre-orders for the new Pinkerton Thugs album now, they hit the studio in 45 days, shouldn't be later than June/July when the album is out. Pay now, get it 6 months later. And oh yeah. Let's inflate the price. Pre-orders are 30 bucks unless we feel like charging double. The sad shit is that people will continue supporting, and they know this. There is absolutely no motivation to not put up year long pre-orders. A few people get pissed, and then finally get the record and start kissing their ass again, and ejaculating in their pants for the next overpriced year long pre-order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailhouse Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'm jacking off right now while reading the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 @jailhouse - what it comes down to is if you want the 180gram version you HAVE to preorder it. Blink has a big enough following that these will sell out no matter when they put the preorder up. Any other band on this label it wouldn't work for and the label has put themselves in the toilet by doing this. I know I am one of more than a few people that will never order anything from this label outside of these blink represses due to their awful service and bullshitting around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta114 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 so the general understanding is that its pointless to try to 50% off code if you didnt order before? sorry new to the thread to add to that.......... in order to use the coupon code you had to preorder 4 months ago? or could I preorder (1) today, and use the coupon to get a second copy, say, tomorrow? still on the fence about getting one. anyone tried this yet? preeeesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailhouse Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't see anything wrong with pre-orders, but when you haven't even finished the art yet. It's a little nuts to start taking pre-orders. At least wait till test pressings are approved. Cash grab label. I mean, we do pre-orders occasionally as well, but they are a few weeks, not months on end. And I don't know why people go through the trouble of smiting people for making a comment on obvious fuckups by a label. I don't really think anyone here cares about their stupid ass Karma points. They should just refund everybody, and allow them first dibs when the release comes out. Hell, if you took all probably 15000 bucks they have probably gotten on pre-orders and tossed it in a bank for 6 months, that's a decent amount of interest. They are basically getting interest free loans, or better yet, people are paying them for the privalege of giving them a loan. It's tempting to buy into this shit, and start doing pre-orders a year in advance. Seems like people would rather pre-order than actually just buy something, like pre-orders sell better than release date records. I'm still furiously jacking off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 They take pre-orders way in advance because thats how they are paying to press this. Im not defending it at all, just saying why they do it. If you cant afford to press a record without taking everyone's money 6 months in advance then you probably shouldnt be pressing the records in the first place. They didnt even have the fucking jackets picked out until the initial street date. The only way they can get away with this is because its Blink and people will wait cause if they cancel their order they will likely miss out on whatever they wanted. Pretty lame. Im sure these will look and sound very nice but that doesnt make up for the fact that they obviously couldnt have handled this release any worse than they have so far. They cant even get an update out on time, let alone the actual records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 this picture needs bumpage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 @jailhouse - what it comes down to is if you want the 180gram version you HAVE to preorder it. Blink has a big enough following that these will sell out no matter when they put the preorder up. Any other band on this label it wouldn't work for and the label has put themselves in the toilet by doing this. I know I am one of more than a few people that will never order anything from this label outside of these blink represses due to their awful service and bullshitting around The only band on this label I like is I Hate Our Freedom. I will only purchase their future releases when the item is in stock and ready to ship. I don't want to support MTS at all, but it's not their bands' fault. It's like dating a girl with an asshole dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masonxstorm91 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I don't see anything wrong with pre-orders, but when you haven't even finished the art yet. It's a little nuts to start taking pre-orders. At least wait till test pressings are approved. they actually posted a video of the approved test pressing on their facebook wall weeks before the preorder was even announced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydrums Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 From the MTS Facebook page "We've received the written forward for blink-182's "Take Off Your Pants And Jacket" and the shipping update is coming today! Should we post the forward on the internet, or would you rather wait until you get the full package to read it? Comment below!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardacus Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I was just about to post this. Hopefully this will finally be released soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 good idea.....deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardacus Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 What's new, an update that's late from RJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quitlylosngcntrl Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 i'm beginning to think that RJ doesn't know what a release date is. like, maybe he has the whole concept of it wrong and is okay thinking "oh, well, that's a date we'll shoot for, but it's not concrete or anything...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chutterhanban Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 weird to think that this will be at my doorstep someday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McCall Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Sent Dan an e-mail about a refund, I wonder how long it will take to hear back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezfools Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Sent Dan an e-mail about a refund, I wonder how long it will take to hear back. I had a quick turnaround with replies from Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 weird to think that this will be at my doorstep someday Not if RJ has anything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pushbacktosquare Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I actually have a question about the TOYPAJ coupon. For those of you that have used it, is the discount instantly deducted before checkout or do you have to pay the full amount and are then refunded? Just wondering, thinking about picking up some stuff this Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkeyelids Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 deducted at the checkout for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McCall Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Sent Dan an e-mail about a refund, I wonder how long it will take to hear back. I had a quick turnaround with replies from Dan Thats what I'm hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackoat Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 weird to think that this will be at my doorstep someday hahaha, love this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardacus Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 i'm beginning to think that RJ doesn't know what a release date is. like, maybe he has the whole concept of it wrong and is okay thinking "oh, well, that's a date we'll shoot for, but it's not concrete or anything...." This. And with the addition of your avatar make your statement even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantscruffy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 So can we all agree there is zero chance this ships tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yocaseycasey Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I received my copy in the mail today. Looks incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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