timsimmons Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 It's $100 for a 4lp. If its not a big box set it certainly is extremely overpriced. That I agree with. But it's not botched. This is a pretty great set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Can't really blame them for gouging seeing as what an original pressing goes for on eBay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek123 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 incase anyone's wondering, this is the uncut setlist for the show being featured on the DVD. Set 1: Tonight, Tonight In the Arms of Sleep Cupid de Locke Thirty-three Rocket Soma Take Me Down 1979 Beautiful Muzzle Set 2: Where Boys Fear to Tread Zero Fuck You Here Is No Why To Forgive Today Thru the Eyes of Ruby Porcelina of the Vast Oceans > Rocket (tease) Bodies Boys Don't Cry [Cure] (tease) Disarm Bullet with Butterfly Wings Cherub Rock Encore 1: Firestarter [Prodigy] (tease) X.Y.U. Encore 2: Mayonaise Encore 3: Jellybelly Silverfuck > Space Jam (tease) Farewell and Goodnight Holy shit. Thats a beefy set. I might have to buy my first cd in 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 The DVD is only 1. Tonight, Tonight 2. 1979 3. Zero 4. Here Is No Why 5. Thru the Eyes of Ruby 6. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans 7. Jellybelly 8. Silverfuck 9. Disarm 10. Bullet with Butterfly Wings Live at Rockpalast, 4/7/96 11. Fuck You (An Ode To No One) 12. Muzzle 13. Cherub Rock 14. XYU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek123 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 14. XYU Still might have to give in.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 That sucks the show on the DVD is truncated. Here's the CD track listing: Morning Tea (CD3): 01 Tonight, Tonight (Strings Alone mix) 02 Methusela * 03 X.Y.U. (Take 11) 04 Zero (Synth mix) 05 Feelium * 06 Autumn Nocturne * 07 Beautiful (Loop version) 08 Ugly * 09 Ascending Guitars * 10 By Starlight (Flood rough) 11 Medellia of the Gray Skies (Take 1) 12 Lover (Arrangement 1 demo) 13 Thru the Eyes Of Ruby (Take 7) 14 In the Arms of Sleep (Early Live demo) 15 Lily (My One And Only) * 16 1979 * 17 Glamey Glamey * 18 Meladori Magpie 19 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (Home Piano version) 20 Galapagos (Instrumental) * 21 To Forgive * High Tea (CD4): 01 Bullet With Butterfly Wings * 02 Set the Ray to Jerry (Vocal Rough) 03 Thirty-Three * 04 Cupid De Locke (BT 2012 mix) 05 Porcelina of the Vast Oceans (Live Studio rough) 06 Jellybelly (Instrumental/Pit mix 3) 07 The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right) 08 Jupiter’s Lament (Barbershop version) 09 Bagpipes Drone * 10 Tonight, Tonight (Band Version Only, No Strings) 11 Knuckles (Studio outtake) 12 Pennies 13 Here Is No Why (Pumpkinland demo) 14 Blast (Fuzz version) 15 Towers of Rabble (Live) 16 Rotten Apples 17 Fun Time * 18 Thru the Eyes Of Ruby (Acoustic version) 19 Chinoise * 20 Speed Special Tea (CD 5): 01 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (Nighttime version 1) 02 Galapagos * 03 Cherry (BT 2012 mix) 04 Love (Flood rough) 05 New Waver * 06 Fuck You (an ode to no one) (Production Master rough) 07 Isolation (BT 2012 mix) 08 Transformer (Early mix) 09 Dizzle * 10 Goodnight (Basic Vocal rough) 11 Eye (Soundworks demo) 12 Blank * 13 Beautiful (Instrumental-Middle 8) 14 My Blue Heaven (BT 2012 mix) 15 One and Two 16 Zoom (7 ips) 17 Pastichio Medley (Reversed extras) 18 Marquis in Spades (BT 2012 mix) 19 Tales of a Scorched Earth (Guitar Overdub mix) 20 Tonite Reprise (Version 1) 21 Wishing You Were Real (Home demo) 22 Thru the Eyes of Ruby (Pit mix 3) 23 Phang * * Sadlands demo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinylfilmaholic Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Man, Mellon Collie is my favorite album of all-time. This will probably be the only time in my life that I will spend $100 on a single record. Really wish I wouldn't have to spend that much, but oh well. Hopefully they keep the original CD tracklisting for the vinyl, because I downloaded a vinyl rip of the original pressing and the mismatched tracklisting bugged me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 i preordered from the italian amazon site.. only $75 AUD shipped to my door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crapforgenius Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 The DVD is only 1. Tonight, Tonight 2. 1979 3. Zero 4. Here Is No Why 5. Thru the Eyes of Ruby 6. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans 7. Jellybelly 8. Silverfuck 9. Disarm 10. Bullet with Butterfly Wings Live at Rockpalast, 4/7/96 11. Fuck You (An Ode To No One) 12. Muzzle 13. Cherub Rock 14. XYU Apparently the video footage comes from a PBS special so it's possible that that is all that exists at this point. I imagine we'll know for sure once the official announcement comes. That said, I find it very hard to believe there's not a complete show from the era in the archives that they could have used. Botched? Really? Because there are 14 tracks on the DVD and the vinyl track list isn't the same as the original pressing? No, botched because they're forcing us to buy unnecessary, excessive packaging to get the audio material and needlessly adding another LP to an already huge package. (Before you shout "Sound quality!", both sides of the 'Gish' reissue are as long if not longer than any of the sides of a 3xLP set would be and it sounds just fine.) Maintaining the original running order would have been nice but I can understand why they chose not to. There should be an option that matches the boxes we've already got and offer all the extra, superfluous stuff in a super deluxe set for those that want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 billy had this to say about the shortened show: Billy CorganVerified @Billy @robdy2k fans need to stop complaining about the brixton show because that other footage is MISSING. Blame somebody else buddy cause that other footage is MISSING. Blame somebody else buddy and he said the double door shows are being considered for the aeroplane reissue. stranaspank and almightyseancore 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximuss Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I wait for order, price will be 35-4o euro i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 He sure has a way of putting things that make him sound like an asshole. I'll give Billy that. almightyseancore and crapforgenius 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 stoked for the melon collie reissue, not stoked about the probable price tag. although it will be a hell of a lot cheaper than the ones on ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crapforgenius Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 billy had this to say about the shortened show: Billy CorganVerified @Billy @robdy2k fans need to stop complaining about the brixton show because that other footage is MISSING. Blame somebody else buddy cause that other footage is MISSING. Blame somebody else buddy and he said the double door shows are being considered for the aeroplane reissue. Then perhaps he needs to get that info out there, and not by yelling at fans on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 agreed, though to be fair, an official announcement hasn't been made yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crapforgenius Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 agreed, though to be fair, an official announcement hasn't been made yet. Right, but at the same time Superdeluxeedition got their info direct from EMI and there was no mention of why the whole show wasn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobfrombob Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I say we blame Ryan Seacrest crapforgenius and vinylfilmaholic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh83 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 http://www.msopr.com/press-releases/the-smashing-pumpkins-1995-double-album-mellon-collie-to-be-reissued-for-the-first-time/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 No, botched because they're forcing us to buy unnecessary, excessive packaging to get the audio material and needlessly adding another LP to an already huge package. You're not forced to buy anything. If you want to argue its too expensive, thats fine. I'd agree. But the price doesn't negatively affect the content of the set. Botched pricing sure. Botched release? Hardly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crapforgenius Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 You're not forced to buy anything. If you want to argue its too expensive, thats fine. I'd agree. But the price doesn't negatively affect the content of the set. Botched pricing sure. Botched release? Hardly. Fine, but my core argument is that it's too expensive when it doesn't have to be. "Forced" in the sense that if you want the 3 discs of bonus material, you either have to go digital (which I think everyone here can agree is not an ideal option in any sense of the word) or buy all that extra non-musical crap. There's no reason there can't be a set to match what came before. So botched formatting then. In any case, this is a huge miss for me. Also, the above press release is official enough and no mention of why the show is incomplete. glass realms 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Chester Copperpot on YouTube put together one of his awesome edits of the whole show with the Proshot footage and fan boots. Same with the audio. I watched a bit of it this morning. Pretty great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 http://youtu.be/s1eCwxs82Ik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablod85 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 This is 57 euro shipped from amazon.it (about US $73) so I guess the price will drop $20-25 at amazon.com as soon as the pre-order at the band's website is up. Otherwise, it wouldn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelso330 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 So do people think the PREORDER price will be cheaper than the IN-STORE price...like at local records stores, hot topic, Amoeba and so on? I cant imagine small indie shops being able to move a lot of these at $90-$100 a pop! Jesus, I am a bit disheartened by this news: 1. Too high of a price (and nothing to justify the vinyl price, they could at least give a digital download of the bonus stuff! come one!) 2. Tracklisting same as CD...well will still be broken up for sides but now 8! 3. Artwork change I just sold my bootleg copy...so I can use the money from that to cover it! but still...I think ill wait to pick up IN STORE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Definitely wont be cheaper in stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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