almightyseancore Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Easily the worst song on the album? That's a ridiculous statement. Have you ever listened to "We Only Come Out at Night"? yeah. my (ex?) wife has 'the days are much too bright' tattooed on her arm. possibly second worst song on the album, but still a better song than zero. i'm fluent with practically all pumpkins material. even all the early 80s stuff, and obscure b-sides. i've had it bad for this band for almost 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangesix Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 early 80's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelmanfredi Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 early 80's? I think he was referring to the pumpkins 80s stuff being the bands early years. not early 80s almightyseancore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine_empire Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 anyone know where i can get Mellon collie for a decent price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyseancore Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I think he was referring to the pumpkins 80s stuff being the bands early years. not early 80s this. they released 3 demo tapes before gish, all recorded in the 'late' 80s, but all 'early' material. there is a multi-disc bootleg out there called 'mashed potatoes' that pretty much sums it up, and then some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idreamofpunk Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 anyone know where i can get Mellon collie for a decent price? Wait for it to go on sale at amazon.ca again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiatorhums Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Had to wait until today (payday) to order it, only to find out it's not on sale anymore. Damn. Guess I'll wait until the next go around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subwire Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 did you guys get a shipping notice from amazon.ca or did you just get it without? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minor incident Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I got a "your order with amazon.ca has shipped..." email on the day it went out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpitts Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I received an email notification from Amazon.ca the day it shipped from Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathroommonkey Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 i ordered Mellon Collie on Friday from amazon.ca, it arrived about an hour ago. amazon is rad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subwire Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Got my shipping notice yesterday and I paid for the middle shipping option so It should be here fast. Cant wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Second Amazon.ca copy still had tracking issues. Bit the bullet and ordered from Amazon.de. It's down to about $73 ppd. People wondering why all the fuss? I'm sorry but a deluxe vinyl reissue touted as the "definitive version" has no business having any problems that affect a large number of people who purchase the pressing. At all. No matter how little of the music the problem affects, no matter if you think the song that it affects sucks, and no matter how little anyone paid for it. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiatorhums Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Looks like it's cheap(er) on Amazon.ca again, $54.60 PPD for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Second Amazon.ca copy still had tracking issues. Bit the bullet and ordered from Amazon.de. It's down to about $73 ppd. People wondering why all the fuss? I'm sorry but a deluxe vinyl reissue touted as the "definitive version" has no business having any problems that affect a large number of people who purchase the pressing. At all. No matter how little of the music the problem affects, no matter if you think the song that it affects sucks, and no matter how little anyone paid for it. Period. mine sounded much better after cleaning it with a VPI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac1 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Pretty sure Einstein stated the definition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result." Anybody else knocking down the door to do business with this guy? Second Amazon.ca copy still had tracking issues. Bit the bullet and ordered from Amazon.de. It's down to about $73 ppd. People wondering why all the fuss? I'm sorry but a deluxe vinyl reissue touted as the "definitive version" has no business having any problems that affect a large number of people who purchase the pressing. At all. No matter how little of the music the problem affects, no matter if you think the song that it affects sucks, and no matter how little anyone paid for it. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heypeterman Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Second Amazon.ca copy still had tracking issues. Bit the bullet and ordered from Amazon.de. It's down to about $73 ppd. People wondering why all the fuss? I'm sorry but a deluxe vinyl reissue touted as the "definitive version" has no business having any problems that affect a large number of people who purchase the pressing. At all. No matter how little of the music the problem affects, no matter if you think the song that it affects sucks, and no matter how little anyone paid for it. Period. Exactly. I received my second copy too. It's awful, distortion starts at the beginning of Zero. I realize now what most of you are dealing with. My original only mildly distorts near the middle and doesn't really get too bad until the very end of the song. To anyone wondering about what turntables, cartridges, alignment, etc, I've used: Rega RP3 with Ortofon 2M Bronze (work demo), a Pioneer PL-530, Akai AP-206, Dual 1225 and Realistic LAB-250. All of those turntables with a variety of cartridges: Ortofon 2M Blue, Ortofon Super OM10, Shure M70EJ, Realistic (Shure) R47EDT and Shure M92E. All aligned with a mirrored protractor, VTA adjusted with various headshell and turntable mat combinations. I know none of that is high end but it isn't junk. If anything, the distortion is less noticeable with the cheap M92E but that's mainly because it has less detail than the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heypeterman Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Pretty sure Einstein stated the definition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result." Anybody else knocking down the door to do business with this guy? I think we're all a little insane. It's 2013 and we're buying records. kirtah777 and minor incident 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntslash Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Exactly. I received my second copy too. It's awful, distortion starts at the beginning of Zero. I realize now what most of you are dealing with. My original only mildly distorts near the middle and doesn't really get too bad until the very end of the song. To anyone wondering about what turntables, cartridges, alignment, etc, I've used: Rega RP3 with Ortofon 2M Bronze (work demo), a Pioneer PL-530, Akai AP-206, Dual 1225 and Realistic LAB-250. All of those turntables with a variety of cartridges: Ortofon 2M Blue, Ortofon Super OM10, Shure M70EJ, Realistic (Shure) R47EDT and Shure M92E. All aligned with a mirrored protractor, VTA adjusted with various headshell and turntable mat combinations. I know none of that is high end but it isn't junk. If anything, the distortion is less noticeable with the cheap M92E but that's mainly because it has less detail than the rest. My copy (ordered from Amazon.ca) had no distortion issues. My equipment is not as good as yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Pretty sure Einstein stated the definition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result." Anybody else knocking down the door to do business with this guy? Hey Einstein, I ordered from Amazon.ca a second time because more than two people here claimed their recent orders showed no signs of the problem I was having. Stands to reason that current stock might not exhibit the issue. I ordered a third copy from Amazon.de because I'll surely get the EU press which has wider deadwax and is free of tracking problems. It's not theoretical physics here, use your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minor incident Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Also, different turntables, different ears, different brains, different speakers, different amps, different stampers, different pressing runs. There's a whole fuckton of variables that could be the cause of my copy on my system sounding pretty good to my ears, versus another copy on another dude's system sounding like hot garbage. This is just an unfortunately release where it was pushed REALLY close to the border of being an all around shitty pressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniquemel0dy Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Wow. I wasted $64 on this concert. The band is so dead and the crowd is not into it at all. What a disappointment. I would not reccomend seeing them live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 really? i've seen them on every tour since they got back together in '07, and i thought they've been pretty solid. the setlist for this leg of the tour is awesome too, i'm bummed i can't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit bored records Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Wow. I wasted $64 on this concert. The band is so dead and the crowd is not into it at all. What a disappointment. I would not reccomend seeing them live déjà vu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniquemel0dy Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 really? i've seen them on every tour since they got back together in '07, and i thought they've been pretty solid. the setlist for this leg of the tour is awesome too, i'm bummed i can't see it. It's more of the fact that the band has almost no chemistry, billy trying to play all of his new stuff, and the venue. They played Chastain, which is a great venue except for one thing. The crowd. Chastain lies right in the ritzy part of Atlanta. Many of the patrons were sitting down drinking a wine. Billy at one point talked for a good five minutes about if they should continue. It was just him talking. He never introduced the band and his band members would just say yeah after statements. It was not nearly as good as the show they played at the orange peel. I think at one point Billy played some sort of screaming metal song that lasted a minute of him just screaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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