dmplly Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 SRC are saying on twitter that the band is being paid but it has nothing to do with them anyway as their just the distro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valis Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I don't see why everyone is having a fit and falling it in over this release. You honestly think the re-releases from hot-topic are all "artist approved"? There are army's of lawyers that look over this stuff, it wouldn't be put out if it wasn't legal. The label owns the masters, probably spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on the band. The band broke up, barely toured and probably are in the hole to the label for a ton. if the re-release is done right, sounds great and is done well, what's the problem? There has been an insane demand for all of their releases on vinyl for years, it's their own fault for not capitalizing on it themselves. Also, there is no way you can "flatten" a record and have it be fine, it screws it up permanently. youspinmeround and firefoxUSSR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcvinyl Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 For those interested Matt updated his post: It was stated here yesterday that, among other things, Humwould “not make a nickel” off of the SRC re-issue of Astronaut. Whiletechnically true, it was stated in a mean-spirited and manipulative way.SRC is certainly paying licensing fees to Sony. That means that, perour deal with RCA, an artist royalty will flow to our account. So Ithink a few dollars (maybe a little less…not sure) off of each albumsold will go toward our account. Like most all major label bands, wehave not recouped our deal. And we never will. That means we don’treceive artist royalties. So we won’t see money off of this unless theysell a couple million copies. My statements were misleading and I apologize to the folks atSRC. My emotions got the best of me. What remains true is that thislicensing agreement is in violation of our contract, we were notinformed about it, and all kinds of artistic license is being exercisedwith no concern for how the members of the band feel about it. And theywill make plenty of nickels. Meanwhile my ’96 Carolla has nearly 250,000miles on it and needs a new power steering pump in the worst way. I hate that I have to say anything public about it.I’m sick about the whole deal and just wanna play legos with my kids andwatch Sponge Bob. Krusty’s Krushers is my favorite episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Bummer. It's too bad they didn't just do it themselves, so dude could get his car fixed. That's a kickstarter I'd have thrown some money at. Hey! Guys! Downward! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Krusty's Krushers is a pretty good episode. My kid and I laugh about Patrick's butt every time we see it. Boys and butt jokes, some things are just ingrained in us naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Wow. I love when people sign shitty contracts and than want you to bail them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 A few dollars per record sold doesn't sound too bad to me...I actually thought that was pretty standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Pretty happy that Electra 2000 will also be available through Earth Analog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattisr1984 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Pretty happy that Electra 2000 will also be available through Earth Analog. oh, damn. guess i missed that part... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 oh, damn. guess i missed that part... Yeah. Pretty easy to miss things like that through all the pissing, moaning and complaining in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 A few dollars per record sold doesn't sound too bad to me...I actually thought that was pretty standard. That would be awesome, except the band isn't going to see a dime of it, because of record label accounting. As long as the label says they haven't recouped their investment in the album, they don't have to pay the band. It's a shitty deal, and one of the many ways labels fuck their artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 ^ Yeah, but none of these people care, they just want their colored vinylz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The way to make money on this deal would have been to license it themselves, and sell it themselves, and keep the profits. But that requires lots of capital up front, because they still have to pay the mechanical license fee. Or buy back their masters. More money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 That would be awesome, except the band isn't going to see a dime of it, because of record label accounting. As long as the label says they haven't recouped their investment in the album, they don't have to pay the band. It's a shitty deal, and one of the many ways labels fuck their artists. Ah okay. Thanks for the response. I figured there was something I didn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah. Pretty easy to miss things like that through all the pissing, moaning and complaining in this thread. But seriously, where are you seeing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 But seriously, where are you seeing this? It's on the Earth Analog Twitter page. He also mentioned it in an email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 It's a shady deal. Usually happens to bands on their first album, if not first few. The label fronts money for the recording, videos, touring costs, whatever the band needs. Then, they can charge the band for advertising costs, promo copies, whatever the hell they want. So any profits from album sales, until they decide they've "recouped" their investment, go toward that balance. And there are a million and a half ways labels can fuck artists on what exactly they owe. So if it was seriously an issue of wanting to profit on a release, and I certainly wouldn't blame them for it, a good way to go would be for the band to have a kickstarter to raise money to license the last album (which may very well have recouped, who knows). What do people pay for that these days, $150? They'd probably rather pay $25-30. And what did SRC sell, a couple of thousand? There's obviously a demand. You could probably reasonably raise enough for licensing and production costs and have some left over. You could put a cool product in people's hands (like a Jay Ryan reimagining of the cover art!) and they'd have the satisfaction of knowing they helped the band. Win all around. I do wonder what the cost of the unwarped ones will be. If I can afford it, I'd gladly buy one to help out the people that made music that means a lot to me. Chances are, the band already paid for the cost of pressing those records, so every dime should conceivably go to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyseancore Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 keepin' this up. 3 more days right? any idea what they're going to charge yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213041284s Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I think contacting them through email would be the best best. Gonna do that now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefoxUSSR Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I'm glad that SRC is making at least 1000 copies of the record, say he only gets 1 dollar per record- that easily will cover a power steering pump plus install. I'd like to tell Talbot, to make money press 500 or so of each: Fillet Show Electra2k Shiner records. That said, I'll buy a warped copy of ..Astronaut for display purposes. & I knew it, HUM got dropped, didn't make money. Matt said so. Thought so. Artists aren't usually great businesspeople. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangesix Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 i thought they "unwarped" these copies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefoxUSSR Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 i thought they "unwarped" these copies? Haha, you got me. "I'd like to unfuck my record, sir." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derby625 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I'm glad that SRC is making at least 1000 copies of the record, say he only gets 1 dollar per record- that easily will cover a power steering pump plus install. I'd like to tell Talbot, to make money press 500 or so of each: Fillet Show Electra2k Shiner records. That said, I'll buy a warped copy of ..Astronaut for display purposes. & I knew it, HUM got dropped, didn't make money. Matt said so. Thought so. Artists aren't usually great businesspeople. Shiner - yes plz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actiondan Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 this is tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlr Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Don't know if you guys have seen this: Thank you for your interest in the original pressings of Astronaut and Electra. People have lots of questions, so I have created this page to answer them. Here’s the facts, as I know them, on Sunday, Feb. 24… What I got: * These records are all from their respective original, first pressing. I acquired them about 8 years ago from 12-Inch/Cargo when there was no real market for them and no practical way for me to distribute directly to our fans. * Being nearly 20 years old, the records, and their jackets, are in good, but not perfect condition. I want to be perfectly up-front about this so you know EXACTLY what you are buying, should you choose to purchase. * I am opening each record and making sure it will play ok on a decent turntable. Any record which does not perform well gets flattened using a device I purchased called the Vinyl Flat. It’s safe for the record and, in all cases so far, it’s worked. * The covers, having been shrink-wrapped all these years, are virtually void of any imperfections as it relates to scratches, tears, or any fading. However, in most cases, you can see the imprint of the album pressed into the jacket. So there will be a visible round, raised circle in the jacket. Also, in some cases, the poster inside will have an imperfection where the spindle hole in the center of the record has pressed against the poster. If any of these issues are a deal-breaker for you, please do not purchase!! (I will be posting pictures here when I get a chance so you can see exactly the nature of any imperfections to these records.) * I am sure you wish these were in perfect, as-new condition. I do too. But they ain’t so little I can do other than inspect each one individually, flatten as needed, and be as honest as I can about their condition. When I began, earlier this year, coming up with a creative way to get these to our fans, I had intended to pair with a new re-pressing. However, since Sony issued the license to SRC, without telling me and in violation of our contract with them, I was denied that opportunity. * Quantities are somewhat limited, particularly as it relates to Electra (at about 125). I have Astronaut in fairly large quantity, enough to meet all immediate demand by my reckoning. (The translucent green ones might be in very limited quantity, however. Really don’t know. I am going through every single record and have only found a few. I can’t comment further on that at this point, as I really don’t know the quantities. Please do not email me asking for preferential treatment as it relates to the green copies. I have no further data on that right now.) If, after reading all that, you still wanna buy one: * Each record is individually inspected for playability and then re-bagged and paired with a completely exclusive 12″ x 12″ Jay Ryan re-imagining of the cover. These are being sold only as sets (meaning one record and one poster) and the cost of each set is $35. The posters will only be made available to folks who buy the vinyl. I will not be selling the posters as stand-alone items on my site. * I hope you are ok with the pricing. I know it’s a lot of dough. I have tried to strike a balance between the fact that these ain’t in perfect shape, but they are in very good shape, and they are in limited quantity and highly collectable, and that individual used copies go for way more than that, and the exclusive poster makes it really cool, etc. I’m sure some people think it’s a great price for what it is (have had many people tell me that), and others feel it’s not enough (have had many people tell me that), and others that it’s too much (no one has told me that but they might have told someone else or thought it privately). Please know that I’ve done my best to make it fair. I am not trying to hold these copies hostage. When you purchase you are directly supporting the label and making it possible for us to do more cool things for other bands. You have my most sincere thanks for being interested in this project. To be honest, it’s been less than fun figuring it all out while also dealing with the disappointment of having Astronaut re-pressed, re-packaged and re-issued without our involvement. I had some pretty awesome plans for that whole deal and was looking forward to putting my energies into it. And when-the-fuck are these things finally going to be available? * Because there is a lot of labor and time involved in opening each one, inspecting, flattening, etc, it is taking me awhile to get through them. It is my hope to have about 40 or 50 copies of each ready to go this friday morning, March 1, at 9:00. I’ll take orders until that supply is exhausted and then ship them that day. And then I’ll hope to have another pile a few days after that. We’ll keep it rolling until they’re gone. I’m going to ask everyone to not panic and please form a single file line. It ain’t that big of a deal. It’s not like I’m selling slightly discounted LCD tvs the day after Thanksgiving. mt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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