topher Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 This continues to perplex me: I often see complaints on this board when a new release comes out with say, a 24 minute side. Understandable, sound quality sometimes suffers because of this. Yeah, I know, it all depends on the volume, who mastered/cut it, etc. Deftones' new one sticks in my mind, but it sounds fine on my end. Back in the 90's, though, there was a barrage of 50+ minute rock albums that were squeezed onto 1 record. Examples: Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine - Both sides about 25 mins. Bush - Sixteen Stone - Side A is 28 minutes. Pearl Jam - Ten (Original) - Side A is 28 minutes. Pearl Jam - Vitalogy (Original) - I don't own the OG, but I know it's 1 LP, adding up the track lengths on side B comes to 32 minutes. Please tell me I'm wrong, and they left something out. Any worse offenders? How do they sound? Keep in mind, I'm not as anal as some people are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 it REALLY depends on how it's mastered/pressed, Broken Circles has pressed a few records with long sides that sound great. Basically, the end of each side will be more prone to problems the longer the side is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusted_By_Space Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think the tbr live in 06 sounds just fine, its something like 35 minutes long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konk Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 How come they had better splatters back then too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusted_By_Space Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Or the vinyl weight, my Springsteen records are thin as shit, but they sound great. Never really got the whole 180 gram thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrom92 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 If you press on very quiet virgin vinyl and your lacquer was cut on a vms80/82, you could probably get away with a 25 minute side that still has plenty of dynamics. Would I reccomend it? No, but it is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathroommonkey Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i read this as "Really Long Slides", now i'm sad. chamb117, imaxcowboyx, Route36west1 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idreamofpunk Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i read this as "Really Long Slides", now i'm sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipsterasfolk Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think those bands just sound bad, regardless of the mastering You should check out Switchfoot or Creed....they are a lot better and way more talented! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantscruffy Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Side 1 of Nimrod is 28 minutes and 10 tracks. It looks odd, but sounds fine to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrom92 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Has anyone ever seen the vinyl for Green Day's international superhits? It's a joke. I mean, it sounds like crap but that's actually besides the fact that the sides are so long. Great cut, shitty mastering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetJerryWine Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'm getting a record done soon that has rather long sides to be cut. I've been recommended to a gent who has experience with longer records so fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmhmm Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Has anyone ever seen the vinyl for Green Day's international superhits? It's a joke. I mean, it sounds like crap but that's actually besides the fact that the sides are so long. Great cut, shitty mastering. I've always heard the first purple pressing of this was really good but the pressing(s) after it were pretty bad. Not sure if this is true or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000000 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 If I remember correctly, No Doubt's "Tragic Kingdom" runs about 30 min on each side and I don't remember it sounding any worse off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrom92 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I've always heard the first purple pressing of this was really good but the pressing(s) after it were pretty bad. Not sure if this is true or not. Didn't even know there was a purple first press, I have the recent black vinyl from a couple of years ago. But I think they both probably suck, just due to the nature of the recording. Wouldn't sound any better if it were spread over 8 LPs. If I remember correctly, No Doubt's "Tragic Kingdom" runs about 30 min on each side and I don't remember it sounding any worse off. It's an excellent sounding record. A bit quiet but if you get a quiet pressing you can turn up the volume no problem. It is a long record but a very well done one. (I can only speak for the official pressings, not that one that came with a t-shirt a couple of years back) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFP Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I think those bands just sound bad, regardless of the mastering You should check out Switchfoot or Creed....they are a lot better and way more talented! What is the dislike of Switchfoot? You mentioned this before? I guess they can't all be Ke$ha... No but to the original post I have a rejected 1LP test of Finch's "What It Is To Burn" and it is an hour long album and the record plays throug fine and genuinely sounds great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
searos Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I got Saves The Day - In Reverie which is a single LP and honestly one of the smoothest sounding records I own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin415 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Or the vinyl weight, my Springsteen records are thin as shit, but they sound great. Never really got the whole 180 gram thing. This. I can practically roll my Darkness LP into a tube and drink chocolate milk through it, yet it sounds phenomenally better than almost all of my more recent, 180g+ records. Dusted_By_Space 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasma36 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I got Saves The Day - In Reverie which is a single LP and honestly one of the smoothest sounding records I own. In Reverie is only half an hour long...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 If I remember correctly, No Doubt's "Tragic Kingdom" runs about 30 min on each side and I don't remember it sounding any worse off. I was surprised about that too. I expected it to sound like crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deathbydrums Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Seem to recall my green copy of Mr. Bungle's "Disco Volante" by Plain Recordings had a shitload of music on it... shoulda been a dbl lp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasma36 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Does anyone have Dub Trio's "Another Sound is Dying"? That's almost an hour long and was pressed on a single LP, would like to know if it sounds alright because I'd love to have it on vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylo234 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I've always heard the first purple pressing of this was really good but the pressing(s) after it were pretty bad. Not sure if this is true or not. I have a later pressing and I think it sounds fine. Definitely is weird having so many tracks per side though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabpower Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I have Jello Biafra's spoken word albums and they're way above 30 minutes per side. I'd say 45 minutes on average. But that's just talking and there's no need for big quality and high dynamics. I guess that's how you do it, by reducing the wave form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindovermatter Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 The OG pressing(s) of The Shape Of Punk To Come are on a single LP and they sound pretty fucking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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