patrickemmons Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Exactly, the guy wrote almost everything they've done. Those speaking for Layne have no idea what they're talking about. I'm glad AIC is still around and creating albums, the sound is still there with or without Layne. This is all true but Layne's voice was incredible and I miss it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfiend Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 This is all true but Layne's voice was incredible and I miss it a lot. We all miss Layne but that doesn't mean the band isn't any good without him. I just wish people would stop complaining about the fact that the band reunited without him and just like AIC for what it is now or get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest realtalk Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Will never be what it once was. imaxcowboyx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobyblue Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Please tell me there will be a regular NON-PIC vinyl released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psus2h Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 That's what we are all waiting for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtcb Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Please tell me there will be a regular NON-PIC vinyl released? God I hope so. I simply despise picture discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobyblue Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Well while we wait for that announcement did anyone see this? http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f56c3e82fc/alice-in-chains-twenty-three Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markok Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 lol, picture disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anomynous Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 preorder is now up on amazon for a cool, reasonable $60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear801 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 i'll be another annoying "old" fan. I've always realized that Jerry was the writer but it still feels false without Layne. His voice is what drew a lot of people to the band and in some sick way his life made the music and lyrics more legit. I'm glad they finally get to tour and I'm sure it sucked wondering if he would show up to the studio every morning. I have no issues with them going on and I think Duvall is great but for me personally Layne's absence is too big. It would be like PJ without Vedder, Soundgarden without Cornell, etc. Sometimes the frontman becomes the band. The last album and this song just feels like a tribute show to me. My wife and I went out and repurchased AIC Unplugged on April 5th and blasted it all the way home. Good times. celebdeath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Well while we wait for that announcement did anyone see this? http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f56c3e82fc/alice-in-chains-twenty-three This is pretty funny. That 'fixie/cuff' character was absolutely hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickcook19941 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 the new single is actually awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobyblue Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 So the pre-order is official, only a double picture disc so far for vinyl. Hopefully anyone else here that thinks that sucks balls can let them know on their Facebook page under one of the most recent updates they made with a pre-order link. This stinks!! Picture discs for both the UK and US? Balls! Looks like I won't be purchasing this album at all until a real version comes out. I already know the CD will be loudness wars crushed to shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Is complaining about loudness the new cool thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtcb Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 So the pre-order is official, only a double picture disc so far for vinyl. Hopefully anyone else here that thinks that sucks balls can let them know on their Facebook page under one of the most recent updates they made with a pre-order link. This stinks!! Picture discs for both the UK and US? Balls! Looks like I won't be purchasing this album at all until a real version comes out. I already know the CD will be loudness wars crushed to shit. What a bummer. I just cannot stand picture discs. I'll be passing on this until they get around to a regular pressing if they ever do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psus2h Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Is complaining about loudness the new cool thing? I don't think this is a new thing, I think more people are becoming educated on what is happening with music. Black Gives Way to Blue has clipping and digital distortion through out, Death Magnetic was the worst, the new Fall Out Boy album is pretty bad too. It takes away from the dynamic range that used to exist in music, what a drag. Also, picture discs are too gimmicky, hopefully they do a standard release. firefoxUSSR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedpig Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Yep I'm pretty bummed about the picture discs... but what I also want to know is will it be in a gatefold sleeve? Because the last thing I want is to spend that much dollar on pic discs, and have them turn up in just a pvc sleeve with an insert or some shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psus2h Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Yep I'm pretty bummed about the picture discs... but what I also want to know is will it be in a gatefold sleeve? Because the last thing I want is to spend that much dollar on pic discs, and have them turn up in just a pvc sleeve with an insert or some shit. Because you know its going to be busted as shit on the sides and it will have a sticker on the clear sleeve preventing you from putting it in a new one. These pic discs!! I dont mind them if its a variant (like Coheed did) but otherwise they are awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefoxUSSR Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I don't think this is a new thing, I think more people are becoming educated on what is happening with music. Black Gives Way to Blue has clipping and digital distortion through out, Death Magnetic was the worst, the new Fall Out Boy album is pretty bad too. It takes away from the dynamic range that used to exist in music, what a drag. Also, picture discs are too gimmicky, hopefully they do a standard release. I vote with my dollars. If a band/label makes an album with an overly-loud master as the only version available: they don't get my money. I will pirate and reshape the recording to my liking, and I don't do that for free. Oh and releasing the one good master on picture disc only will warrant a vinyl rip and resale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobyblue Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Is complaining about loudness the new cool thing? Let's hope so, if it becomes a cool thing then loads of people will do it and the dicks in the suits will be overruled and the artists who don't understand the concept of dynamics will open their ears to their fanbase's requests. As for whether it's the new cool thing, I only see people complaining about it on AV forums like here, Steve Hoffman forums, etc., so no...I don't think it's the new cool thing yet. However it's nice to see that sometimes a review that specifically calls out the dynamic compression can be the #1 most helpful review on Amazon like this one of Soundgarden's Telephantasm - http://www.amazon.com/review/R2G6JU4JL0AIJ7/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B003YRIM0Q&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag= firefoxUSSR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobyblue Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I don't think this is a new thing, I think more people are becoming educated on what is happening with music. Black Gives Way to Blue has clipping and digital distortion through out, Death Magnetic was the worst, the new Fall Out Boy album is pretty bad too. It takes away from the dynamic range that used to exist in music, what a drag. Also, picture discs are too gimmicky, hopefully they do a standard release. I found the EU vinyl pressing was noticeably better than the CD on this front. It was cut by Ray Janos at Sterling and they do often use a 24-bit high rez master that's had less drc applied than the redbook master. Unfortunately the US pressing was done at United, very noise, SIDE D pressed off center. The German pressing is whisper quiet and perfectly centred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefoxUSSR Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Let's hope so, if it becomes a cool thing then loads of people will do it and the dicks in the suits will be overruled and the artists who don't understand the concept of dynamics will open their ears to their fanbase's requests. Thank you! Some artists are aware of it, others aren't. Also SteveHoffmanForums is where it's at if you care how the audio sounds above all else. I like SHF. I don't understand why when an album is released they don't just do: a DVD-audio/data disc (or a download) with high-res/no-DRC and a DRC-compressed MP3, and an LP or two. Maybe I just like the wrong type of music dobyblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfiend Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I want to buy this to support the band but $40+ shipping for a domestic picture disc is just crazy. If it were something like $30 I'd cave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramer73 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I want to buy this to support the band but $40+ shipping for a domestic picture disc is just crazy. If it were something like $30 I'd cave. same here. Might just be picking this up on itunes, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfiend Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'll probably just......*gulp*.....buy the CD. I much prefer to have some type of physical media when it comes to the bands I love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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