fogwolf Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I have a record with no visible vertical warping (i.e. the needle does not bounce up & down), however on the first song on each side the needle moves back & forth toward and away from the center of the record very badly at a certain spot on the LP. I've examined the LP and cannot for the life of me see anything indicative of what's going on on the vinyl itself. Is there anything I can do to remove or alleviate this? Since it's not a vertical warp I'm assuming the gadgets I've seen for clamping and heating the warp would not help in this case. Any ideas or suggestions appreciated, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Its pressed off center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The hole is off center. Figure out which way the hole needs to be shifted. Grab a rat tail file and file just a tad at a time until the hole is centered. The stylus will find the groove and it will play fine. Remember...just a very little bit at a time. It doesn't take much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I think it's fun watching records that aren't centered. As long as my stylus tracks it of course haha. Vinyl Addict is right though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdwell Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 When it's punched way off center and it starts sounding like a carnival ride out of a horror movie is the worst......my copy of Poison The Well's "You Come Before You" is like this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebilljim Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 My copy of Gospel's "The Moon Is A Dead World" does this, but only on the b-side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fogwolf Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 Thanks for all the replies! It's really bad - the 1st song does not track and skips in the same exact spot each time the LP spins around to that spot, making it unlistenable. There's no effect further in on the LP. This still sounds like it's off-center? I'll see if I can figure out which way I'd need to file it - any advice on figuring this out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poweredbytrust Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 My copy of Gospel's "The Moon Is A Dead World" does this, but only on the b-side. correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that impossible? I mean, if it's off-center on one side, than that inevitably makes it off-center on the other side, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebilljim Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I mean, you could always buy a Nakamichi Dragon. There's a $3000 solution to your problem. Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebilljim Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that impossible? I mean, if it's off-center on one side, than that inevitably makes it off-center on the other side, too. I think it's the actual pressing that's off-center, not just the center hole. Has the same observable effect, though. poweredbytrust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I mean, you could always buy a Nakamichi Dragon. There's a $3000 solution to your problem. Haha. ....how does this solve his problem? Why would he do that vs buying a CD or mp3s...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 This still sounds like it's off-center? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fogwolf Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 I took a tape measure to it and sure enough, near where I'm noticing the tonearm jump, I find that the distance from the edge of the record to the edge just across the center hole is a little shorter than other places on the LP. Am I right in assuming I'd want to gently and slightly file on the edge where it's a bit short to make it match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebilljim Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 ....how does this solve his problem? Why would he do that vs buying a CD or mp3s...? Technically, it would solve his problem because the turntable self-centers constantly while playing. It's an absolutely ridiculous solution that has no basis in reality, but it WOULD technically make the record sound correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throughbeingcruel Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 How much is this record worth? Probably could get anther copy and solve your problem, if it isn't rare or OOP of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fogwolf Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 How much is this record worth? Probably could get anther copy and solve your problem, if it isn't rare or OOP of course. Not a realistic option https://www.discogs.com/Truth-And-Janey-No-Rest-For-The-Wicked/release/3025049 poweredbytrust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throughbeingcruel Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Not a realistic option https://www.discogs.com/Truth-And-Janey-No-Rest-For-The-Wicked/release/3025049 Hahahaha that's fucking absurd. Good fuckin' luck dawg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yeah,replacing it is a silly answer anyway when it's a 5-10 minute fix. I may just be confused, but wouldn't you want to file the longer end? Also don't just file it until it matches the other measurement. Remember on the opposite end of the record the hole would be too close as well. so just a little at a time. I've done it a few times. Can you grab an accurate measurement off a known centered LP? At least it would get you in the ballpark. But again, don't just file the hole until you get the desired measurment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throughbeingcruel Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yeah,replacing it is a silly answer anyway when it's a 5-10 minute fix.I mean, if it's readily available and purchased from a store, I'd return it for a replacement before I went filing at it. That just sounds dumb as hell to me, but I don't buy old or used records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boops_popmarket Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 A few of the LPs in my original Cake box set had this issue. I found that increasing the tracking force/weight helped but that swinging motion of the stylus creeped me out enough that I had to ask for a replacement. 2nd box set I received played fine. Quality control, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmBrain Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I've had good luck filing down off-center records, any blade will work too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckinandsuckinandtouchin Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Does having anti-skate help in this situation? I have a U-Turn so I don't have it, but thought of this a few times when playing really off center records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markok Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Through the years I have learned this - dont fucking "fix" a 1000 dollar record if you dont even know the correct terms (off-center). Just sell the thing and buy 50 new records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throughbeingcruel Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Just sell the thing and buy 50 new records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plarocks Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 You could buy this and use your old cover: https://www.discogs.com/Truth-And-Janey-No-Rest-For-The-Wicked/release/4413413 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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