chamb117 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 ellsbury's legs are gonna break down in two years. not to mention he'll miss about 400 games due to injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chamb117 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 piecing together the cano saga, an espn text message said he and the yankees were about $30 million apart, but never mentioned any price tags. then a later text said the mariners offer of $200 million to cano better than the yankees' $170. i know there are rumors about cano and seattle, but i'd pretty much call it a done deal at this point. which i guess means they'd shop franklin, which i've read a little bit about (or miller maybe). anyone else hear about beltran and seattle, too? mariners could be decent, who knows. outfield would still need help and they will be relying on a young rotation, albeit a talented one 1B smoak (or montero) 2B cano SS miller 3B seager LF ackley CF beltran RF saunders C zunino SP felix, iwakuma, walker, paxton, hultzen (maurer, noesi, erasmo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 ellsbury's legs are gonna break down in two years. not to mention he'll miss about 400 games due to injury. In the past 4 seasons he's played 18, 158, 74, 134 games respectively. Let's hope this upcoming season follows that trend and he only plays in the double digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoshotthefrog Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think if Cano leaves the Yankees he will not be the same player as far as production. I think a lot of his success was because of who surrounded him in the lineup in addition to the dimensions of Yankee Stadium. Don't get me wrong, he's a great hitter, but I don't think he is a guy a team can count on as being the top guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoshotthefrog Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I also think that no one is worth a 7 year and/or $100+ million deal. No one really ever lives up to that contract. Guys like Mauer, Howard, Zito. Hampton, Crawford, J. Santana, and a host of others have all failed to match the potential of the contract they received. However, I do think that only one person in baseball is worth that deal and that of course is the best player in baseball..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Trout might deserve a 10 year contract today, but he will be 26 when he is eligible, taking him to 36. Tons of evidence showing how speed deteriorates starting around 30 and that is a big part of Trout's value: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1577127-how-quickly-do-speed-guys-truly-decline-after-30-years-old Even he is set up to get overpaid when the system sets him up for his turn (unless he decides to sign for less years than someone will give him and stick to the 5ish years range). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoshotthefrog Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I understand all of that, but if there is one person who deserves that kind of contract it's him. But, giving a 26 year old a 7 year deal is certainly more feasible than giving a 30 year old that deal. However, I do expect when he becomes eligible to be a free agent that he'll sign with the Phillies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think if Cano leaves the Yankees he will not be the same player as far as production. I think a lot of his success was because of who surrounded him in the lineup in addition to the dimensions of Yankee Stadium. Don't get me wrong, he's a great hitter, but I don't think he is a guy a team can count on as being the top guy. The funny part is that the Yankees still have HUGE holes in their starting rotation and bullpen. Signing Ellsbury and McCann (and possibly bringing back Cano) won't fix that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedinexile Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 The funny part is that the Yankees still have HUGE holes in their starting rotation and bullpen. Signing Ellsbury and McCann (and possibly bringing back Cano) won't fix that. I don't see them making the playoffs again, especially if they lose Cano. Not only do they have holes in their pitching staff, but their line-up isn't exactly a murder's row like it usually is. A-Rod isn't the same, Jeter and Ichiro aren't getting any younger, Teixeira has been injured a lot the last couple seasons, Vernon Wells isn't good, and they probably won't bring back Youk or Granderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Grandy rumored to be closing in on deal with the Mets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 He's an awesome dude, just don't want that windmill back on my team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I don't see them making the playoffs again, especially if they lose Cano. Not only do they have holes in their pitching staff, but their line-up isn't exactly a murder's row like it usually is. A-Rod isn't the same, Jeter and Ichiro aren't getting any younger, Teixeira has been injured a lot the last couple seasons, Vernon Wells isn't good, and they probably won't bring back Youk or Granderson. Granderson is as good as gone. Thier line-up is pretty sad. It will be interesting to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjb2k1 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 i'd never bet against ichiro. i'd like to see youk back because he can play first and third, and both tex and a-rod are going to need days off. lol assuming either one plays. but right now the starting rotation is just laughable as well. sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Lol at Yankees fans calling Boston radio today and saying that we sox fans are just jealous of the Yankees franchise. Right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjb2k1 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Lol at Yankees fans calling Boston radio today and saying that we sox fans are just jealous of the Yankees franchise. Right. that is hilarious man yankees fans are assholes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Dude people call Detroit radio stations and suggest benching Matt Stafford. The only conclusion you can draw from it is that there are stupid people out there. Not everyone, but enough to be noticed. KennyFuckingPowers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 a vast majority of all sports fans are stupid, nothing surprises me anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 a vast majority of all sports fans are stupid, nothing surprises me anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 i really can't believe anyone who bitches about how much ballplayers make... you know the teams are pocketing MILLIONS upon MILIONS of dollars every year right? Hell some of the small market teams are more profitable than the big ones.. because they don't spend money. Hell the Cubs suck and they were the most profitable team in baseball last year. I wanna see the teams spend ouit the ass for the money i pay to go see a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 i really can't believe anyone who bitches about how much ballplayers make... you know the teams are pocketing MILLIONS upon MILIONS of dollars every year right? Hell some of the small market teams are more profitable than the big ones.. because they don't spend money. Hell the Cubs suck and they were the most profitable team in baseball last year. I wanna see the teams spend ouit the ass for the money i pay to go see a game. Everything should be cut in half. Tickets, hot dogs, beers, jerseys, salary etc I'm with you that I'd rather the players make the money than the owners. But we're paying for it, and we're paying too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yep agree ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Dude people call Detroit radio stations and suggest benching Matt Stafford. The only conclusion you can draw from it is that there are stupid people out there. Not everyone, but enough to be noticed. Is "bench Matt Stafford" detroit slang for "Fire Jim Schwartz"? HEYO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckingPowers Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I want Granderson...but the Mets need a power clean up hitter who can hit home runs in citi field, not doubles and triples. If he does come here though Alderson better be spending more money on a power hitter or trade for one. Either way just dont make Granderson look like JBay 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Wouldn't a big field make you want a guy who can stretch a single into a double even more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckingPowers Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Wouldn't a big field make you want a guy who can stretch a single into a double even more? We already have those though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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