aju2streets Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Ok, Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 With a manual table, the platter SHOULD be spinning the entire time it's switched on.. I also like you said it seems heavy. Though it's only MDF for the plinth, this should be a massive step up from the plastic pieces of shit a lot here own. ATLP60, crosley etc... I kind if want one to try and compare to my very vintage rega planar 2. I'm guessing they should be quite close in terms of sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy plays bass Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 With a manual table, the platter SHOULD be spinning the entire time it's switched on. Good to know. I had a Technics SL-BD for a bit that would stop spinning when the arm was off to the side. I guess that one wasn't fully manual though, so maybe that's the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 To anyone who has got on of these could you tell me is it powered by a wallwart type power supply? And is the arm a uni-pivot like it looks in the pictures? Also it would be great if someone could do a back to back comparison with the Project as that's a pretty well known standard to measure against. I am a great fan of the uni-pivot arm so some pictures would be good and might well buy one next time I'm in the states if it has a plug in type PSU which means I can substitute it for a 240V one when I get it home. It wouldn't be the first time I've bought a turntable back on the plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Loyd Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Agreed for the need of a side by side comparison with the Carbon. I'm seriously considering getting one of these with the acrylic platter and cartridge upgrade. $300 for this setup, or $450 for the same type of setup with a Debut Carbon? hmmmm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Agreed for the need of a side by side comparison with the Carbon. I'm seriously considering getting one of these with the acrylic platter and cartridge upgrade. $300 for this setup, or $450 for the same type of setup with a Debut Carbon? hmmmm..... same exact boat ^ Want to move my ATLP60 to another room as an alternative and have a nice table out in the main area. Want either the upgraded orbit, or the debut carbon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzyb Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 This may be a noob question, but... Can anyone comment in a nutshell the difference between the cartridge on the U-Turn Plus vs. Debut Carbon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Well the 2M Red on the Carbon is a lot better than the OM5 cart on the U-Turn. I'm willing to bet that the tonearm is a big step up as well. Then there's the bearing, motor, tonearm wiring, the platter itself, and how they compare is still a mistery. So who knows. But from the details I do know, and from the experience I have with this industry, I'd put my money on the Carbon being well worth the extra cost, and a better price/performance choice. But again, this is strictly from the little details we do know and from what I expect, so no-one please take this as a statement of facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Loyd Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I just read a member review on another website where he says he really likes the table a lot.....for the price. Of course he also makes it clear he's comparing it to his two other $3000 turntables (Scout and Garrard) and says it's 15 to 25% the player that those are in regards to audio performance which is to be expected. so for basically 5% of the price he's saying it's definitely outperforming and that's a good thing. He says he'll slap a GRADO cart on it as opposed to the one the Orbit shipped with sometime today and see how big a difference it makes then report on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I just read a member review on another website where he says he really likes the table a lot.....for the price. Of course he also makes it clear he's comparing it to his two other $3000 turntables (Scout and Garrard) and says it's 15 to 25% the player that those are in regards to audio performance which is to be expected. so for basically 5% of the price he's saying it's definitely outperforming and that's a good thing. He says he'll slap a GRADO cart on it as opposed to the one the Orbit shipped with sometime today and see how big a difference it makes then report on it. A superb example of the law of diminishing returns when it comes to the high end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviex2shoes Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It feels really good to my hands. Nice and heavy. The spool for the belt seemed sort of loose at first, but maybe that's not a problem. It hasn't affected the sound or anything so far. I don't know anyone around here who has one, but if I did, then I definitely would. I know a lot of people will be deciding between an Orbit and a Carbon. I've got a Carbon where in IL are you? Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbruise Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I just read a member review on another website where he says he really likes the table a lot.....for the price. Of course he also makes it clear he's comparing it to his two other $3000 turntables (Scout and Garrard) and says it's 15 to 25% the player that those are in regards to audio performance which is to be expected. so for basically 5% of the price he's saying it's definitely outperforming and that's a good thing. He says he'll slap a GRADO cart on it as opposed to the one the Orbit shipped with sometime today and see how big a difference it makes then report on it. Can you link us to this thread please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Loyd Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Can you link us to this thread please? I guess i could do that. http://mail.audiokarma.net/forums/showthread.php?t=463765&page=116 starts at the top. He adds throughout a few times from there. bigbruise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Hm, just read that part: Not a surprise given the relative costs of these two rigs, but I would say the U-Turn is subjectively about 15-25% of the Garrard. Again, I'm not knocking it - it cost about 5% as much, so it is actually an over-performer. Kind of a useless statement, as the entire world of hi-fi works this way. A $1k cart performs 90% of a 10k cart, yet only costs 10% as much. When you go up in performance, the rise in price is always exponential, not linear. Still, looking forward to more reviews. There is a definite lack of tables worth buying in that price range. jtcohenour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy plays bass Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I've got a Carbon where in IL are you? Haha Central. If you're in Wisconsin like your location says, it'd be a bit of a hike. I'll ask around here and see if I can find a friend of a friend or something who has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 you dudes rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviex2shoes Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Central. If you're in Wisconsin like your location says, it'd be a bit of a hike. I'll ask around here and see if I can find a friend of a friend or something who has one. Yeah I'm right on the border of IL. If you're talking Peoria its like 3 and half...haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aju2streets Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Does the speed seem to be 100% accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aju2streets Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Ok, bought me a basic Orbit tonight. Hopefully it arrives by Christmas. I'm really looking forward to my first real quality turntable. jtcohenour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raynerho Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Hi all, so i was just wondering. This orbit comes with both a counter weight and anti-skate right? Pardon me since i use a lp60 currently and am looking to upgrade to this or carbon! I see that carbon has an extra part where u hang it behind the stylus, and i think thats the anti-skate which i dont see on the orbit, thus Im asking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyWatts Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 From what it looks like, the orbit does not come with anti-skate, but does come with a counterweight. The dangling weight on the Project and Music Hall is the anti-skate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aju2streets Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Did they ship the turntable priority or standard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isavedlatin54 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Did they ship the turntable priority or standard? media mail. aju2streets, artlovesyou, Emo Revival and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearchuck Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 media mail. Nope, UPS Ground ... looks like they're charging $20.00 for shipping in the U.S. A turntable does not qualify for Media Mail: http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/173.htm#1113509 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emo Revival Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Nope, UPS Ground ... looks like they're charging $20.00 for shipping in the U.S. A turntable does not qualify for Media Mail: http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/173.htm#1113509 I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm chuck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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