batman Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sunshine said: This is what I figured was going on in the first place. Calling someone an abuser without being specific is purposefully making it seem much worse than it is. social media callouts are really lame and petty. regardless of who's right/wrong. ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Sunshine said: This is what I figured was going on in the first place. Calling someone an abuser without being specific is purposefully making it seem much worse than it is. Her new partner (Jess McDermott) made a statement that pretty much confirmed how I was feeling about this since TWIABP first kicked her out. batman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 36 minutes ago, Bladewillisisdead said: Her new partner (Jess McDermott) made a statement that pretty much confirmed how I was feeling about this since TWIABP first kicked her out. Same. I feel like it's cool to be a victim now in some of these peoples heads. Way more excited for new OHYO stuff than TWIABP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 23 minutes ago, Sunshine said: Same. I feel like it's cool to be a victim now in some of these peoples heads. Way more excited for new OHYO stuff than TWIABP. Triggered!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogeoa8 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 this is just the height of irony. ill say I love TWIABP's music, especially whenever, if ever and harmlessness. i havent read any of the social media nonsense, but the notion that TWIABP's music is all about spending time with friends, family and being out in nature (or that is at least the feeling I get from their music) and there is an all-out social media war going on between members (impersonal internet fighting, former friends) is just kind of ironic to me, i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmBrain Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Yeah I'm sure we don't get the full story, but it makes me sad to see these people at odds when what they did together was beautiful. I am definitely looking forward to the OHYO stuff B-dosia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlr Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) Edited August 25, 2017 by tlr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Well damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throughbeingcruel Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I mean, is anyone surprised? The fact that they went bankrupt while taking preorders is pretty fucked to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 It was coming but I'm glad they are taking steps to sort shit out. The whole situation is a total bummer. I know I've made my thoughts on Nicole/BWM/TWIABP/etc clear several times, but I just want to reiterate: I hope everyone heals and I hope Nicole can find a way to keep making music/art. 1 minute ago, throughbeingcruel said: I mean, is anyone surprised? The fact that they went bankrupt while taking preorders is pretty fucked to me. You gotta remember that TWIABP merch/records was how BWM was able to fund their other projects. Nicole tried and failed to continue without that income. It sucks for the consumer, but she lost her livelihood. I firmly believe that she was trying to make it work and get that shit made/shipped and it just spiraled out of control and she just couldn't. They're trying to make it right. Last I heard Nicole was delivering pizzas, so that's where this money is coming from with the refunds. Most small labels operate at a loss trying to keep things going and eventually start earning a profit. It's not like going bankrupt with outstanding preorders was malicious. At least she is now taking responsibility and not just ghosting like RJ with those Blink preorders. zaoza, cantdance and MCDELTAT 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throughbeingcruel Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Bladewillisisdead said: It was coming but I'm glad they are taking steps to sort shit out. The whole situation is a total bummer. I know I've made my thoughts on Nicole/BWM/TWIABP/etc clear several times, but I just want to reiterate: I hope everyone heals and I hope Nicole can find a way to keep making music/art. You gotta remember that TWIABP merch/records was how BWM was able to fund their other projects. Nicole tried and failed to continue without that income. It sucks for the consumer, but she lost her livelihood. I firmly believe that she was trying to make it work and get that shit made/shipped and it just spiraled out of control and she just couldn't. They're trying to make it right. Last I heard Nicole was delivering pizzas, so that's where this money is coming from with the refunds. Most small labels operate at a loss trying to keep things going and eventually start earning a profit. It's not like going bankrupt with outstanding preorders was malicious. At least she is now taking responsibility and not just ghosting like RJ with those Blink preorders. I don't need disagree, it's great they're taking responsibility. It's just crazy they tanked so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-dosia Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 So does this mean no LP3 in physical form, sans tapes? kinda confused... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) If I had a $15 order that was not fulfilled I would email her and tell her to keep my $15. She's not running away with everyone's money and living the dream. I know for a fact she needs the $15 more than I do, and it was never her intention to screw people over. EDIT: I'm not saying everyone should do this, just that I am lucky to be in a position where she can keep my $20 bill. Edited August 25, 2017 by parkinglot erthan, batman and dantheriver 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 29 minutes ago, B-dosia said: So does this mean no LP3 in physical form, sans tapes? kinda confused... TWIABP LP3? That's an epitaph only release and it will be on all formats. There hasn't been any connection between TWIABP and BWM for a while now. that's been discussed here quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 3 hours ago, throughbeingcruel said: I don't need disagree, it's great they're taking responsibility. It's just crazy they tanked so quickly. She's been in and out of the hospital for the last year. So there's a lot of factors to BWM's problems. The whole thing really is a bummer. 2 hours ago, parkinglot said: If I had a $15 order that was not fulfilled I would email her and tell her to keep my $15. She's not running away with everyone's money and living the dream. I know for a fact she needs the $15 more than I do, and it was never her intention to screw people over. EDIT: I'm not saying everyone should do this, just that I am lucky to be in a position where she can keep my $20 bill. Which is why I completely agree with this. Honestly, if I'd never gotten my $80 Formlessness preorder I'd probably do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Well, I will say I ordered an OHYO 7" thru Bandcamp and she shipped it to me with some older BWM goodies. I did it drunkenly and thought of it a week later, then asked on IG and she sent it out quickly. So, she's definitely trying to stay honest. Even though I have like $15 in my bank account, she could've kept the $10 and I'd have considered it a cost for download. NBD. I'm glad everything will be squared away and hopefully, one day, BWM will live again. #zombielabel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 If there's any way to make up for being a shitty label this is it. So much respect for taking responsibility in the face of much worse problems than all the other "label" owners who just cut and run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy. Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) On 8/25/2017 at 11:51 AM, Bladewillisisdead said: Most small labels operate at a loss trying to keep things going and eventually start earning a profit. Nicole / the label was definitely making some money when things were good. I was told that during the last April Fool's Day sale thing they made over $10k. They were also going to pay Mark of Funeral Sounds's rent when he was working for them. Edited September 25, 2017 by andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 2 hours ago, andy. said: Nicole / the label was definitely making some money when things were good. I was told that during the last April Fool's Day sale thing they made over $10k. They were also going to pay Mark of Funeral Sounds's rent when he was working for them. Yeah, they made money off TWIABP related stuff. They weren't paying rent with like Brigtside LPs andy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 41 minutes ago, Bladewillisisdead said: Yeah, they made money off TWIABP related stuff. They weren't paying rent with like Brigtside LPs I don't think it'll be long before OHYO get noticed now that TWIABP are out of ideas with no Nicole. I bet she knew they were crap without her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sunshine said: I don't think it'll be long before OHYO get noticed now that TWIABP are out of ideas with no Nicole. I bet she knew they were crap without her. I need that fucking OHYO record! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 21 minutes ago, dantheriver said: I need that fucking OHYO record! Now that Always Foreign is a foreign band I need it more than ever. Don't care how much I hype it up internally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlr Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 *** We cleaned out the warehouse and have updated quantities for what's left of our inventory: Also all shirts have been MARKED DOWN to $5.00! Also ALL single LPs have been MARKED DOWN to $6.00, 2xLP to $12.00, 7' to $4.00! Tapes to $3, Hoodies to $10, some April fools stuff back (shirts and socks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsNJazz Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Grabbed 3 LPs for $24, Thank You! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Nice! Grabbed i am Satan,Formlessness and Kexp, and a Crass style TWIABP shirt. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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