famousdrumer

I didn’t want to write this post, but all the “trashing-records-canceling-orders because hey i’m not a pedophile” thing is becoming ridiculous and it made me want to express my opinion, as well as try to understand some points of view. Given that Jesse Lacey revealed himself to be a total asshole beyond any reasonable doubt, I wanna discuss the role of the “victims”.  What I get reading this thread is that a 15-16 year old human being is considered adult enough to drive a car and be responsible for other people’s life, BUT not enough to judge whether or not sending naked pictures to a stranger over internet just because he sings in your favourite band is a proper thing to do. One of the victims according to the Pitchfork article claims this kind of “sick” relationship went on until she was 22-23...still unable to judge? And why these “abuses” have been kept buried for 15 years? This sex scandal thing (WAIT: you are really telling me that there are people who use their power to obtain easy sex?? Common I don’t believe you! And what about women/men who use sex to make a career? NO! they don’t exist,they are all victims) has made it difficult to tell whether a woman/man is a real victim (and I’m sure most of them are) or it’s just jumping on the victims’ train to gain some attention:"Jesse told me I was the only one and he lied, now I can make him pay!” “Kevin Spacey touched my dick 30 years ago, the creepy old bastard!”   For sure being a “rockstar” and using your influence in such ways is not nice, but it has always been common knowledge in rock’n’roll music so why all of a sudden, something that was known and tolerated for ages has become a crime worth of death sentence? There’s a big difference (and we cannot just ignore it) between real abuses and taking advantage of late teenage fans (I’m not saying is ok, mind!..and it’s not even legal but neither are drugs and I have no knowledge of people trashing lou reed’s records).   Before letting the “go fuck/kill yourself” party begin, let me know if some points are unclear due to my poor english. Just note that I’m not judging anyone because this situation is really quite unclear to me, so most of the things I’ve expressed in my post are doubts rather than statements.

Every canceled pre-order and all discarded store stock – in an effort to prevent Jesse from upgrading his webcam – is actually a tiny obstacle along his path to maintain help and keep his demons at bay.  You think therapy is cheap?  If you're canceling your order you're basically a pedophile.  Just so you know.

For a group of grown men, there sure are a lot of drama queens in here.
 
I was skeptical of the validity of the claims as well until the statement was released, and I am a woman that has been put in more gross situations than any of you guys would think. It's not such a far fetched notion to acknowledge that anyone can say anything on the internet to gain attention/cause trouble. It's the easiest thing in the world to sit behind your keyboard in the comfort of your home and spread lies. It's also not such a far fetched notion to acknowledge that people we may admire such as Lacey and C.K. might be gross. I think anyone in here that was skeptical were keeping the door open to both possibilities until more information was provided. 
 
Move on. Thank you.

Yeah can we lock this or make a thread to talk about it in everything else?  I just want updates on the deluxe vinyl.

Most vinylls get damaged in mail. I just accept that it will have some dings and dents and deal with it. 

tug’s first post that wasn’t complete nonsense, minus going out of his way to make sure vinyl was pluralized just to trigger people.

The Upside-Down. 

TD&G- Archers tied with You Won't  Know
SF-Waste
Deja- Quiet Things
Daisy- you Stole
YFW- Soco Amaretto lime

You're on the wrong forum BUDDY 

I've always loved those marbly opaque colors I guess I'm the only one!
 
Haven't listened to this yet but I copped an indie version this better live up to the hype!

same here! 

Mine arrived from Stinkweeds today!

just curious why people prefer the transparent. I'm personally a fan of opaque. 

got a new little single needle nautical piece from Josh @ Generation8 in Los Angeles.
 

its happening. I talked to the merch guy after the show and he told me the whole story of getting the rights. he said Atlantic (Warner) sold them to a company in Europe, thats why it took so long to get the rights back. The are going to tour for it and have a repress available next year. 

its happening. I talked to the merch guy after the show and he told me the whole story of getting the rights. he said Atlantic (Warner) sold them to a company in Europe, thats why it took so long to get the rights back. The are going to tour for it and have a repress available next year. 

its happening. I talked to the merch guy after the show and he told me the whole story of getting the rights. he said Atlantic (Warner) sold them to a company in Europe, thats why it took so long to get the rights back. The are going to tour for it and have a repress available next year. 

its happening. I talked to the merch guy after the show and he told me the whole story of getting the rights. he said Atlantic (Warner) sold them to a company in Europe, thats why it took so long to get the rights back. The are going to tour for it and have a repress available next year. 

its happening. I talked to the merch guy after the show and he told me the whole story of getting the rights. he said Atlantic (Warner) sold them to a company in Europe, thats why it took so long to get the rights back. The are going to tour for it and have a repress available next year. 

Nice.  Just got $315 for my cd.  Should hear back on my home offer by tomorrow too.  If anyone is interested in a tour pressing of YFW let me know.  Thats going next.  Seeing potential mortgage payments, closing fees, inspectors, ect is scaring the crap out of me.

thanks @famousdrumer and @Fowty Dollaz.  I lost out on my last offer so I bid higher on this house then I really wanted to, but worth it if they accept.  Its a big burn when you lose out after getting excited.  hopefully this one is accepted.  

Brand New: the only band that can make vinyl collectors care more about a CD than the record.

got a new little single needle nautical piece from Josh @ Generation8 in Los Angeles.
 

lucky bastard! i want one!!
 

A gold copy just showed up at my house. I'm speechless. Number 18/182