Shelby Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 This is literally why we can't have nice things. Andrew, you keep on doing whatever. Love that ME ME ME ME ME ME ME mentality. Princess Logan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladew1ll1s1sdead Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Love that ME ME ME ME ME ME ME mentality.I especially love how I'm not even going to buy one of these and am just showing support to someone else. swinx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Guys I fixed it. Andrew, you can use my own artwork for your covers - royalty free. Currently taking other requests... Aladin? The Little Nemo? DAMMIT WHY AM I OUT OF UPVOTES?!??! lets see some beauty and the beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I especially love how I'm not even going to buy one of these and am just showing support to someone else. Ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Sofa Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Awesome work cutting, folding and gluing!!! HAHA!!! That's like some grade 2 positivity! Love that ME ME ME ME ME ME ME mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I especially love how I'm not even going to buy one of these and am just showing support to someone else. You're not showing support for the original artist, who had to work MUCH harder to create this and who does this for a career. I'm glad he emailed the artist. Good luck with this... guessing I know the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danionly Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Awesome work cutting, folding and gluing!!! HAHA!!! That's like some grade 2 positivity! You sir, are a huge asshole. From what I've seen, you contribute nothing but negativity and bullshit to this board and therefore have no room to criticize anyone else. Robert_Sofa, DakotyTSI, andrewlucas and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 And, what the fuck?! I thought I said I emailed Whalen. If he says he doesn't see a problem then were doing it. As of right now we are not using his art for anything. Not sure why people are still bitching about it if it's not even a thing right now. sorry for the shit storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Graham's_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement1.svg/563px-Graham's_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement1.svg.png Didn't read all this but I'd guess that stealing and encouraging stealing/looking the other way would be another several levels below name calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danionly Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 And, what the fuck?! I thought I said I emailed Whalen. If he says he doesn't see a problem then were doing it. As of right now we are not using his art for anything. Not sure why people are still bitching about it if it's not even a thing right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Haha got me there. I'm totally calling everyone a pussy and stealing others work. There's no need to get so defensive, the people for this are being so much more aggressive than anyone refuting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 You sir, are a huge asshole. From what I've seen, you contribute nothing but negativity and bullshit to this board and therefore have no room to criticize anyone else. Commenting on stealing art is BS? Hmm. Interesting interpretation. Duff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elnombre91 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 People need to chill, I'm sure most bands would be cool with one offs for tests etc, I asked Punch if I could use their logo for a test sleeve and they said no problem. It's probably best to ask though, who knows they may want some for their other tests? deletedunknown, daegor and kamalatapes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_James_Champ Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 You sir, are a huge asshole. From what I've seen, you contribute nothing but negativity and bullshit to this board and therefore have no room to criticize anyone else. Oh, but it's all about the "real truth" and "real talk". Fuck that. Andrew is doing an awesome job on the work he's done, but there's always some asshole that has to shit in the pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Sofa Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Didn't read all this but I'd guess that stealing and encouraging stealing/looking the other way would be another several levels below name calling. Nope. Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement lists name calling as the worst type of argument in a disagreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 You're not showing support for the original artist, who had to work MUCH harder to create this and who does this for a career. I'm glad he emailed the artist. Good luck with this... guessing I know the answer. i'll bite. the original images were sold as limited edition prints. they're all sold out and sell for 3-4x as much on ebay. the artist isn't seeing any of the profit from that. mondo doesn't repress their prints. the images aren't going to be used for anything else. any profit is marginal at best when considering the time put in, and money spent on equipment and supplies. it's not like he is screenprinting 24x36 posters. people actually replicate movie posters all the time. look at all the single-sided prints on ebay that are unlicensed, or the trends releases that you can buy for like $7 at walmart. and as mentioned, he already emailed whalen about it. tvham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Sofa Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Anyone here arguing that they are correct one way or another honestly can't say so for sure. No matter how they 'feel' about it. The legality of reproducing what is essentially fan art for sale is murky at best and really would have to be taken on a case for case basis AND it ultimately comes down to whether or not the original content creator can prove that the 'infringing' work fails Fair Use under the balancing test: Fair use under United States law 1.1 Purpose and character 1.2 Nature of the copied work 1.3 Amount and substantiality 1.4 Effect upon work's value 1.5 Fair use and professional communities Also there's consideration about whether or not the work is derivative of the original and displays 'transformativeness' Here's some light reading for anyone with an opinion on the matter: http://kirawra.deviantart.com/art/The-Truth-About-Selling-Fanart-212570726 Also, here's a great video by Josh Wattles, legal advisor of deviantArt: kamalatapes and deletedunknown 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Careful, someone will start bitching about Trey Parker/Matt Stone now... Who knew there were a bunch of pussies on vc. no sleeves for anyone ever Jesus, you guys need to get off the dude's dick. This is insanity. He's not making jack shit and is spending a pretty crazy amount of his own free time just to do something cool for VC users. It's not like the guy opened up a Big Cartel or wtfever. That being said, to please the pussies, I can certainly contact Fear Before and give them a heads up to make sure it's cool for the 'Art Damage' sleeve. I'm be surprised if they had a problem with it. Will report back with a response. If the original jackets weren't made in such a shit manner then this would not be necessary. Quit being titty babies. Guys I fixed it. Andrew, you can use my own artwork for your covers - royalty free. Currently taking other requests... Aladin? The Little Nemo? If these were $25 shipped then mine should be $35 shipped. If I'm not mistaken these were simply 12x16" printed on one side and 4" folded onto the back side for the track listing. Not an actual record jacket. I win. This is literally why we can't have nice things. Andrew, you keep on doing whatever. You sir, are a huge asshole. From what I've seen, you contribute nothing but negativity and bullshit to this board and therefore have no room to criticize anyone else. Oh, but it's all about the "real truth" and "real talk". Fuck that. Andrew is doing an awesome job on the work he's done, but there's always some asshole that has to shit in the pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladew1ll1s1sdead Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Boy, I'm so glad what I said was taken so offensively that you can't let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Nah was just posting bottom of the pyramid replies for bibLL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlucas Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 I'm not too big on drama and pointless arguing. Take that shit somewhere else. We dont need a bunch of pointless bitching. I wrote the guy, we'll see what he says. At this point I dont give a shit what he says, I'd rather just use the lamp, rose, etc. idea. Way less headache. Arguing about the legality of using another persons art is one thing but attacking me personally and implying that the quality of my hard work is something a 2nd grader could do is another thing. You didnt buy a jacket from me so you have no fucking idea what youre talking about. jacobweigh, batman, CaptainSeifer and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamalatapes Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I need a sleeve for... 1. Tame Impala/Flaming Lips 12" 2. Flaming Lips/Stone Roses 12" 3. Mystical Weapons RSD 12" Will contact soon whenever you're open to orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenza Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I'm interested in the Disney soundtrack sleeves! I hate to say it but me too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlucas Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 Would this even be an issue if I were giving the sleeves away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Would this even be an issue if I were giving the sleeves away? No. Sort of. Again, even in a clear case of purely covering costs it's possible for someone to receive a cease and desist depending on various factors. andrewlucas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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