andy. Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I can't believe a company as big as Hot Topic is willing to do business with him. Seems like a poor idea. Semi-related: Hasn't Hot Topic been called out for shady practices as well such as stealing artwork for t-shirt designs? yocaseycasey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 It appears Ross printed up 50 additional copies of the Acoustic EP (on half clear/half white) and screen-printed covers for them. Then proceeded to sell or trade them to various people. Info: http://stitchesandgrooves.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/the-early-november-the-acoustic-ep-for-all-of-this-ep-complete-collection/ Record in question: http://stitchesandgrooves.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/image_15.jpg?w=1200&h= that guy edited his post within the last hour.. *** 1/8/15 Update - I’ve noticed a huge surge in views of this entry after it was linked to on a message board, in a thread calling out Ross from Enjoy The Ride for shady business practices. To be perfectly honest since there is a ton of dirty laundry airing going on, Ross did tell me not to publicize the “bizarro” variant, but it did not come with a note saying such. He told me directly via email when I made the deal for the box set after it sold out. He sold me the wooden box set (plus complete set of variants & test pressings for both EP’s), after it sold out, for cost (minus test press cost. But I later sold them and made up the difference) only because I write this blog and it would get him publicity. So it was a mutual deal, I get something sold out that I wanted without paying ebay prices to flippers, and Ross/Enjoy The Ride gets some free press of sorts. He told me, without exact quoting, simply paraphrasing; don’t post pics or anything about the half bone/half clear record because I want to keep it a secret, so I could sell them later on and keep it a surprise. I may have the email exchange saved in my account, but I would have to do some digging. He also didn’t charge me for the half bone/half clear /50 variant, he included it as a bonus without telling me, but hinted at it in email exchanges that the package would have a nice surprise. I only got the pressing info and more info in general about that variant after emailing Ross about it, which is when he emphasized don’t post it on your blog, mention it anywhere or post pics anywhere. I complied with the request, but later, at least three years (February 2014) after initially writing the entry for these Early November EP’s, I went ahead and posted all the pics and info I had about the half/bone/half clear /50 secret variant. So the secret “bizarro” variant addition to this entry fell under the radar for the most part, until the link was posted on a message board. I did not post about the secret half/bone/half clear variant today, yesterday or any day this week. It has been sitting here quietly for almost a year, until today ( Jan. 8, 2015). *** Valeriano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agua Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I am learning a lot on how to run a label here than I have ever before.Thanks for the help VC.Enjoy the Agua records coming at ya, 2015. xhotandfatx, SweetJerryWine, aflycon and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yocaseycasey Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 If he just got caught over-pressing that TEN record, that seems like it would be enough for Hot Topic to pump the breaks. That's called a liability, right? andy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The moral of this thread is that people who press and collect limited edition vinyl sure do get nervous, over explanatory and defensive when they realize that the Internet is a public thing that leaves a digital paper trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Mike Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I am learning a lot on how NOT to run a label here than I have ever before. Thanks for the help VC. Enjoy the Agua records coming at ya, 2015. agua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agua Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I am learning a lot on how NOT to run a label here than I have ever before. Thanks for the help VC. Enjoy the Agua records coming at ya, 2015. I'd like to think my post was open for interpretation. Metal Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBarry Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Ima just slide up in here and post right quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinji Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Honestly this is so funny keep goin guys i'm at work and reading this is helping me pass the time andy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Mike Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'd like to think my post was open for interpretation. Hey, I was only re-interpreting! Is your post also open for re-licensing? agua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Should I feel proud my dumb thread ended up like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koljou Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Should I feel proud my dumb thread ended up like this? I think you'll end up in the hall of fame as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I just got my mystery grab bag LP in the mail. It's Beck's Sea Change on side A and Fiona Apple's Idler Wheel on side B! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Should I feel proud my dumb thread ended up like this? I'd hang an oil painting of you above my mantle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Mike Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Should I feel proud my dumb thread ended up like this? On behalf of all VC, YES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBarry Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'd hang an oil painting of you above my mantle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 What the fuck is the cartel truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shameful Dread Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hahaha this is ridiculous. So glad they didn't let him press those Modest Mouse records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBarry Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Is there a band that is actually signed to ETR? Or does he just rerelease older records? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 I just got my mystery grab bag LP in the mail. It's Beck's Sea Change on side A and Fiona Apple's Idler Wheel on side B! lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Friendly Rap God Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 What the fuck is the cartel truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smailtronic Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 This bizarro/secret variant talk got me thinking back to the Juliana Theory picture disc. As is his way, Ross had test presses (white picture discs) up for sale in his store. Not too long after the record was released, a couple dozen plain black test presses for the same release "just showed up" at ETR HQ. Ross had some foldover sleeves made (nice work Patrick), and threw them up for ~$50 each. At the time, it didn't seem like a big deal. But knowing what we know now, it seems quite plausible that Ross might have ordered the second set of tests to pull in an extra ~$1000 out of the release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youinreverse Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hey, I was only re-interpreting! Is your post also open for re-licensing? I'll fax you a copy of his post and you can reissue it. Metal Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yocaseycasey Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 This bizarro/secret variant talk got me thinking back to the Juliana Theory picture disc. As is his way, Ross had test presses (white picture discs) up for sale in his store. Not too long after the record was released, a couple dozen plain black test presses for the same release "just showed up" at ETR HQ. Ross had some foldover sleeves made (nice work Patrick), and threw them up for ~$50 each. At the time, it didn't seem like a big deal. But knowing what we know now, it seems quite plausible that Ross might have ordered the second set of tests to pull in an extra ~$1000 out of the release. chuck, andy., dethrock and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natenomm Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hahaha this is ridiculous. So glad they didn't let him press those Modest Mouse records. Jesus, was that even a possibility at any point? If so, woof. AlexH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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