hankmurphy Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Okami!!! Play that shit now! Zelda gameplay in a fantasy Japanese setting with beautiful graphics, Okami is an all-around great game. And Shadow of the Colossus is a cool puzzle/platformer. God I wish I could play my ps2, but my vcr is broken and my tv is crappy. And yeah, so far Red Dead is pretty good. I'm not very far into the story, but the western setting is pulled off very well. Seems like there's lots of random events to keep you busy while you're just riding around in the desert. I shot lots of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamitekid Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I want red dead now. There's online play right? that would be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddle350 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I've only played about an hour or so, I'm a little disappointed with a few things. You can change the difficulty setting whenever, I was gonna play it through on normal then again on hardcore, but there doesn't seem much point. Where has hall of meat gone when you bail? Does it only come up when you're doing a hall of meat challenge? And the "story" just seems a little all over the place, I liked in Skate (1) how you worked through magazines working your way up...Saying all this though it's still brilliant, hardcore mode is so rewarding/frustrating I haven't picked it up yet - and probably won't because of how much online integration there is - but I think I've read that you need to turn on the Hall of Meat stuff. What's the deal with Hardcore mode? I played the demo and wasn't into it but I felt the same way with 2 and loved the full game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew13 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 you guys see how 3 major developers now are making a single use code for online play to keep people who buy used games from getting all the features without paying another $10-15? hate the idea, i don't see it holding up if fans were to file a class action suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicker Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Red Dead is the shit! the only negative thing i have towards it, it that the free roam multiplayer is so buggy, it makes it unplayable. the other multiplayer is alright though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partysmasher Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Red Dead is the shit!the only negative thing i have towards it, it that the free roam multiplayer is so buggy, it makes it unplayable. the other multiplayer is alright though. Can't wait to get it! I heard they released a patch for the bugs in multiplayer? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akross Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I can't decide which game to play next, any suggestions from my list?Ar Tonelico Ar Tonelico II Digital Devil Saga Digital Devil Saga II Disgaea Fatal Frame Fatal Frame II Fatal Frame III Final Fantasy X International (beaten the US versions like 4 times, but this has a ton of new content) Final Fantasy X-II Final Fantasy XII (Beat it when it first came out, but I didn't do many side quests or monster hunts) God of War God of War II Grimgrimoire Kingdom Hearts (Beat a long time ago) Kingdom Hearts II Mana Khemia Mana Khemia II Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Odin Sphere (started a few times, but the slow down kills it at times so I give up) Okami Persona 3 (Fav. game ever) Persona 4 (2nd fav game) Radiata Stories Shadow of the Colossus Tales of the Abyss I'm trying to lean towards one I have not played yet, so it does not feel like I wasted money. I have a bunch of other games, but looking for a ps2 one right now. Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. Do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesupervillain Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 you guys see how 3 major developers now are making a single use code for online play to keep people who buy used games from getting all the features without paying another $10-15? hate the idea, i don't see it holding up if fans were to file a class action suit. I don't see how it wouldn't hold up. You really think a court is going to rule against developers and publishers in this when they don't make a single cent from used game sales? They have to recoup their costs somehow. I definitely have bought used games in the past, but usually only older games that you can't find new anymore. I'm really curious to see how places like Gamestop who make almost all of their money off used game sales handle this. They typically sell used new releases for only $5 less than a brand new copy, so obviously they will have to lower that price to make up for the $10 difference. I wonder if it will just lead to the sale of MORE used games, since there are bound to be people who couldn't care less about playing online and would rather get a $15 discount buying used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akross Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 you guys see how 3 major developers now are making a single use code for online play to keep people who buy used games from getting all the features without paying another $10-15? hate the idea, i don't see it holding up if fans were to file a class action suit. I don't see how it wouldn't hold up. You really think a court is going to rule against developers and publishers in this when they don't make a single cent from used game sales? They have to recoup their costs somehow. I definitely have bought used games in the past, but usually only older games that you can't find new anymore. I'm really curious to see how places like Gamestop who make almost all of their money off used game sales handle this. They typically sell used new releases for only $5 less than a brand new copy, so obviously they will have to lower that price to make up for the $10 difference. I wonder if it will just lead to the sale of MORE used games, since there are bound to be people who couldn't care less about playing online and would rather get a $15 discount buying used. Gamestop didn't change their pricing for used copies of Mass Effect 2 even though the free DLC add-on hub (unsure of the name, don't have the game) was most likely already redeemed. While not quite the same as online play, it is still an additional cost if the used game purchaser wants all the benefits that the new game owner gets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesupervillain Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 True, but not as many people are going to complain about not having access to Cerberus Network in Mass Effect 2 as they are going to complain about not being able to get online in Madden or Tiger Woods. Cerberus Network was mostly a bonus for buying new (and not worth the $15 they were asking if you didn't if you ask me), online play is an integral part of most sports games. Take Skate 3 for example. It is my understanding that you cannot download or upload any user made skateparks without the Online Pass, and I'm fairly sure you can't upload saved replays without it either. Considering that game is mostly designed around being able to play online, they have removed key parts to the experience unless you buy new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylet Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Sunday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partysmasher Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Red Dead arrived about an hour ago, can't wait to get home and play this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Sunday! So stoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew13 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 you guys see how 3 major developers now are making a single use code for online play to keep people who buy used games from getting all the features without paying another $10-15? hate the idea, i don't see it holding up if fans were to file a class action suit. I don't see how it wouldn't hold up. You really think a court is going to rule against developers and publishers in this when they don't make a single cent from used game sales? They have to recoup their costs somehow. I definitely have bought used games in the past, but usually only older games that you can't find new anymore. I'm really curious to see how places like Gamestop who make almost all of their money off used game sales handle this. They typically sell used new releases for only $5 less than a brand new copy, so obviously they will have to lower that price to make up for the $10 difference. I wonder if it will just lead to the sale of MORE used games, since there are bound to be people who couldn't care less about playing online and would rather get a $15 discount buying used. could lead to that. i don't see how they can get away with it though, when you purchase something, in my opinion you should be able to do whatever you want with it. if you buy a car or something used, you don't have to pay a kickback to the car company to make the radio work. and i don't think these developers are hurting for money, since millions of people pay $60 each year for minor roster updates and slightly tweaked gameplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesupervillain Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I don't see how it wouldn't hold up. You really think a court is going to rule against developers and publishers in this when they don't make a single cent from used game sales? They have to recoup their costs somehow. I definitely have bought used games in the past, but usually only older games that you can't find new anymore. I'm really curious to see how places like Gamestop who make almost all of their money off used game sales handle this. They typically sell used new releases for only $5 less than a brand new copy, so obviously they will have to lower that price to make up for the $10 difference. I wonder if it will just lead to the sale of MORE used games, since there are bound to be people who couldn't care less about playing online and would rather get a $15 discount buying used. could lead to that. i don't see how they can get away with it though, when you purchase something, in my opinion you should be able to do whatever you want with it. if you buy a car or something used, you don't have to pay a kickback to the car company to make the radio work. and i don't think these developers are hurting for money, since millions of people pay $60 each year for minor roster updates and slightly tweaked gameplay. No, your basic radio will still work. But you certainly have to pay for that satellite enabled radio that comes in every car these days. And put gas in it. And maintain it.. etc. Your game will work just fine, but if you want "added features" you will have to pay. Unfortunately we are at the point where being able to play online is an "added feature". I'm not saying I agree, that's just where it's headed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew13 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 if it's an added feature, then live should be free. i pay to use live, which i don't complain about. i shouldn't have then then turn around and pay for the privileged to use online features. granted, this is mostly moot for me since i rarely ever play online besides l4d and the occasional bioshock match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesupervillain Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 It's not up to the publishers or developers whether Live costs money or not, it's up to the platform holder - Microsoft. If you play Final Fantasy XI on 360, you still have to pay a monthly fee to Square Enix, on top of your Live fee. Online is free if you have a PS3. (Apparently Sony is adding a PSN Platinum that will be a paid service like Live though.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlikesmusic Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 could lead to that. i don't see how they can get away with it though, when you purchase something, in my opinion you should be able to do whatever you want with it. if you buy a car or something used, you don't have to pay a kickback to the car company to make the radio work. and i don't think these developers are hurting for money, since millions of people pay $60 each year for minor roster updates and slightly tweaked gameplay. No, your basic radio will still work. But you certainly have to pay for that satellite enabled radio that comes in every car these days. And put gas in it. And maintain it.. etc. Your game will work just fine, but if you want "added features" you will have to pay. Unfortunately we are at the point where being able to play online is an "added feature". I'm not saying I agree, that's just where it's headed. Maybe it's just me, but your comparisons there don't make much sense. If anything, this play pass is comparable to me having to pay Jeep money in order to drive my Grand Cherokee, which was bought second-hand. Gas and maintenance are completely unrelated. If a game has dedicated servers, I can kind of understand it, as that costs the developer money to run. But if a game has player-hosted matches, it shouldn't matter whether games are bought new or used. I see EA fighting a shit storm of complaints and bad PR in a year or two once they start dropping online servers of games that people have bought online passes for. (Even if this proves profitable for them, I doubt they're going to keep the servers going indefinitely. While I agreed with the pulling the plug previously, I'd be mighty pissed now if I specifically paid money to unlock online play, only for them to disable it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicker Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Red Dead rules. i wish they would fix some of the online bugs though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akross Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Anyone here play Dragon Age Origins? I'm wondering how different a game like that is on the 360 compared to PC, controls wise. I played Neverwinter Nights back in the day, and it would seem difficult to do all that management with a controller... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesupervillain Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 No, your basic radio will still work. But you certainly have to pay for that satellite enabled radio that comes in every car these days. And put gas in it. And maintain it.. etc. Your game will work just fine, but if you want "added features" you will have to pay. Unfortunately we are at the point where being able to play online is an "added feature". I'm not saying I agree, that's just where it's headed. Maybe it's just me, but your comparisons there don't make much sense. If anything, this play pass is comparable to me having to pay Jeep money in order to drive my Grand Cherokee, which was bought second-hand. Gas and maintenance are completely unrelated. If a game has dedicated servers, I can kind of understand it, as that costs the developer money to run. But if a game has player-hosted matches, it shouldn't matter whether games are bought new or used. I see EA fighting a shit storm of complaints and bad PR in a year or two once they start dropping online servers of games that people have bought online passes for. (Even if this proves profitable for them, I doubt they're going to keep the servers going indefinitely. While I agreed with the pulling the plug previously, I'd be mighty pissed now if I specifically paid money to unlock online play, only for them to disable it.) Well, all of EA's online play requires you to log into EA.com, so technically you are using their servers for things like news, roster updates, etc. As far as I know, they are the only developer who are allowed to do this on Xbox Live. The actual game connection is peer to peer, but EA's proprietary servers are used for player matching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markovianprocess Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 I've just joined Steam for Mac, and Civilization 4 won't load up. Is anyone having this problem? I'm on 10.6.3. EDIT: Installed and Uninstalled a couple of times and it is working now! Until then, I'm having a load of fun playing World of Goo (just completed the first chapter) and Portal (Level 15 of 19 but I'm stuck!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deafmx Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 xbox: Red Dead Redemption! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Got Super Mario Galaxy 2. It's absolutely tops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew13 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 does anyone else on here own blazblue? i'm going to need to do the online achievements eventually. just beat the story mode and working through arcade mode now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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