GradedOnACurve Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 For those who are curious, word on the street is that the label is done (obviously), lawyers are involved, and contrary to popular belief, he is not swimming in money but rather in severe debt. Mind you this is through the grapevine and I don't know anything more. Anyone think this is still coming out is just kidding themselves at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chutterhanban Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 RJ disappeared from all social media...MTS and RJ ignoring all correspondence. Final press release date was 4/10...no updates no word etc. Shop Radio Cast issued automated refunds due to no information. MTS appears to be sank. holy balls. kinda surreal. i'm also wondering who the turds are who are helping hide him. i would assume a social, music scene person like RJ doesn't just up and abandon all humans and move to cabo by himself. you know there are people in this board (and probably this thread even) who know. 'tis a real life mystery EDIT: also, what happens to whatever part of the vinyl/packaging/etc. that is already produced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Record labels come and go......but sweet tattoos are forever +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runforcover Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Why do you guys think he's hiding out? It's not like the cops or even people from this board are going to where he lives to find him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 For those who are curious, word on the street is that the label is done (obviously), lawyers are involved, and contrary to popular belief, he is not swimming in money but rather in severe debt. Mind you this is through the grapevine and I don't know anything more.Anyone think this is still coming out is just kidding themselves at this point. Time to brush up on Bancruptcy proceedings. I wonder if I serve a legal letter know I'm entitled to assets or proceeds from the sale of assets? Good stuff though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry47591 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Why do you guys think he's hiding out? It's not like the cops or even people from this board are going to where he lives to find him. No he is probably living large with all our money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyShackelford Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 RJ disappeared from all social media...MTS and RJ ignoring all correspondence. Final press release date was 4/10...no updates no word etc. Shop Radio Cast issued automated refunds due to no information. MTS appears to be sank. EDIT: also, what happens to whatever part of the vinyl/packaging/etc. that is already produced? hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Why do you guys think he's hiding out? It's not like the cops or even people from this board are going to where he lives to find him. dude is probably way more scared of what paypal, universal and blink are gonna do to him... i have it on good authoity that he had already signed licensing agreements for a couple more records... one being the sum 41 record we're doing so he probably is gonna be on the hook for a ton of fees for records he won't ever produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heresyourletter Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Why do you guys think he's hiding out? It's not like the cops or even people from this board are going to where he lives to find him. dude is probably way more scared of what paypal, universal and blink are gonna do to him... i have it on good authoity that he had already signed licensing agreements for a couple more records... one being the sum 41 record we're doing so he probably is gonna be on the hook for a ton of fees for records he won't ever produce. Ouch.. I thought Travis releasing the 180g TOYPAJ was the nail in the coffin, but your Sum 41 press just buried him. Good job Asbestos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgato48 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 RJ disappeared from all social media...MTS and RJ ignoring all correspondence. Final press release date was 4/10...no updates no word etc. Shop Radio Cast issued automated refunds due to no information. MTS appears to be sank. holy balls. kinda surreal. i'm also wondering who the turds are who are helping hide him. i would assume a social, music scene person like RJ doesn't just up and abandon all humans and move to cabo by himself. you know there are people in this board (and probably this thread even) who know. 'tis a real life mystery EDIT: also, what happens to whatever part of the vinyl/packaging/etc. that is already produced? I've been thinking he fled back home. Which is here I'm san antonio. I've been tempted to look to see if there is a crowder shaffer(sp) in the phone book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heresyourletter Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 So whats the bigger mystery... where is Jimmy Hoffa or Rj Crowder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemongoat Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The guy obviously didn't run away with a small fortune. I'm sure he tried as best he could to release TOYPAJ, but he's broke as a joke and scared to face the (sweet sweet pop punk) music. I got out of this a few months ago. Not because I really needed the money back, but I was really worried it wasn't going to come out. Phew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammiblinkchick Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 holy balls. kinda surreal. i'm also wondering who the turds are who are helping hide him. i would assume a social, music scene person like RJ doesn't just up and abandon all humans and move to cabo by himself. you know there are people in this board (and probably this thread even) who know. 'tis a real life mystery EDIT: also, what happens to whatever part of the vinyl/packaging/etc. that is already produced? I've been thinking he fled back home. Which is here I'm san antonio. I've been tempted to look to see if there is a crowder shaffer(sp) in the phone book. I do know he was there for SXSW because he shipped me a package from his parents house in March... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethrock Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The guy obviously didn't run away with a small fortune. I'm sure he tried as best he could to release TOYPAJ, but he's broke as a joke and scared to face the (sweet sweet pop punk) music.I got out of this a few months ago. Not because I really needed the money back, but I was really worried it wasn't going to come out. Phew. Can you explain how he obviously didn't run away with the money and how he tried his best to release this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjb2k1 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I've been thinking he fled back home. Which is here I'm san antonio. I've been tempted to look to see if there is a crowder shaffer(sp) in the phone book. I do know he was there for SXSW because he shipped me a package from his parents house in March... time to tattletale and rat him out to his parents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chutterhanban Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 EDIT: also, what happens to whatever part of the vinyl/packaging/etc. that is already produced? hahaha helpful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 ^ What kind of answer are you looking for? Its not getting released. You want to buy innersleeves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgato48 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I do know he was there for SXSW because he shipped me a package from his parents house in March...time to tattletale and rat him out to his parents! I may be willing to pay him a visit if he is here. Although I may need bail money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetypicalscene Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 http://vinylcollective.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1461 According to RJ's VC profile his gmail is [email protected]'ll let you guys do the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element101 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 hahaha helpful! If you actually believe any part of it is actually done. Its pretty easy to claim a random test press is of any album without playing it. and It's even easier to have an insert mock up. or 1 printed picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chutterhanban Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 helpful! If you actually believe any part of it is actually done. Its pretty easy to claim a random test press is of any album without playing it. and It's even easier to have an insert mock up. or 1 printed picture yeah makes sense. i guess i was also wondering what the consensus is on what exactly has been produced (if anything). i can't recall what the last update told us. anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 ^ Go on their facebook page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element101 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 If you actually believe any part of it is actually done. Its pretty easy to claim a random test press is of any album without playing it. and It's even easier to have an insert mock up. or 1 printed picture yeah makes sense. i guess i was also wondering what the consensus is on what exactly has been produced (if anything). i can't recall what the last update told us. anyone? Yeah, I gotcha. I personally liked rj. had great dealings and convos with him and he was always honest. But considering he lied about every single aspect of this release I wouldn't hold anything he says very high at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edude29 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 What's the paypal number to call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokimedo Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I wonder how much those 7" test presses would fetch after this is all said and done....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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