dreamover Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax. [M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives." http://m.motherjones...vate-fundraiser Seriously. Fuck this guy. These videos are nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdwell Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 well......at least he's being honest? (for the record, I, in no way, endorse anything this shit-bag has to say) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 well......at least he's being honest? to his huge donors, not to the rest of america. almightyseancore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipsterasfolk Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I can not shake for a generation of leaches who seem to think that life owes them something more than a right to breathe. Life owes me nothing but a cold deep grave onlettingjoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecream Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 these fellas just need a heart to heart on forgive or forget mother love will solve all problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 could this man really be president...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 ^^^^^^^^ At one time, he could have been elected, I think. Romney was "next in line" so to speak for the GOP. Problem is, the more America gets to know him, the more he seems like a gigantic dipshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudeboydh Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 ughh..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 What's hilarious is that there are a huuuge number of poor people who will always vote Republican no matter what, because of perceived differences on gun control, abortion, the gays, the Mexicans, whatever. I guess you can chalk this quote up to "rallying the base" or whatever, but not only is he giving a "fuck you" to almost half the country for being poor, but a good chunk of those poor people are ready to vote for him anyway, even against their own interests. It's amazing. SpinningBlackCircleofDeath and rudeboydh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 There is a large portion of the population that will vote republican no matter who is running. There is a large portion of the population that will vote democrat no matter who is running. kirtah777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konk Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Could someone be poor and not want handouts? I could see that from some proud folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 the republicans want billions in tax cuts the democrats want better schools and affordable health care. handouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konk Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I was referring to Alex's post. I assumed by "against their interests" he meant food stamps, etc. (handouts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlikesmusic Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The man is nothing but a caricature at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 the republicans want billions in tax cuts the democrats want better schools and affordable health care. handouts? You're in Chicago. Curious, do you support the strike? Do you think the Chicago teachers believe Dems believe in better schools? The assault on American teachers across the political spectrum is the grossest trend I've seen in years. Emmanuel et al know the Teachers won't move Republican so they can look more centrist by bashing them. I'm so damn proud of the Chicago Teachers and the sacrifice they are making for everyone in the profession. The Dems overplayed their hand on education and deservedly have to answer to the base as to why they continue to take that vote for granted. My wife is a teacher as are several of my friends and they all entered the profession with the truest of intentions and stay in it because they don't want to abandon kids to politicians. Creating systems that don't involve Teacher and Administration Feed is stupid in a noble profession and I'm glad to see this conversation finally happening. controlthebleeding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 i do support the teachers. the way the media is portraying is absolutely scary though. the networks are running ads that say things like "the strike wasn't needed", "the teachers got a great deal". and i'd say 90% of ordinary people believe it. the anchors on the local news obviously believe it. The teachers don't have much of a voice. The only voice they have is the CTU president and she's an idiot. The other issue though, is the teachers are staying on strike for things like smaller classes, air conditioning, etc, and those aren't really strikeable issues. it's a huge mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyseancore Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 sometimes i think romney was just hired by obama to make obama look more appealing to americans. that being said, jill stein needs more press. americans would love her if they actually knew who she was. birdwell and nivek87 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Being in the State of Chris Christie I can see NJ being in the same spot down the road. The Dems have taken the Teachers for granted and used them as a political-carrot at the end of the stick for undecided voters who approve of the tough stance against labor the Republicans have taken in the name of reform. Thankfully Romney has given America enough distractions to at least split the front page with this hot-potato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriss Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 It's interesting looking at the stuff with the teachers and thinking 'geez, parents really are NOT getting that these people aren't just fighting for themselves, they're fighting for yr kids as well!". Over the last week and a half, there have been times where I've seen traffic halted to a stand still as parades of strikers move by and canvas the city. Emanuel is an idiot - we ARE talking the same guy who at one point was trying to push through a new motion for making toll ways for cyclers (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-08-22/news/ct-met-kass-0822-20120822_1_city-bike-miles-of-bike-lanes-rahmfather). An interesting set of thoughts on the matter via one of our city's best writers, Ben Joravsky, in last week's issue of The Reader: http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/mayor-emanuel-pushes-chicago-teachers-toward-strike/Content?oid=7412909 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 WE ARE THE 47% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 Most of the 47% that Romney is referring to are elderly. 82% of employed pay income taxes. birdwell and almightyseancore 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdwell Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Most of the 47% that Romney is referring to are elderly. 82% of employed pay income taxes. precisely this....and the man knows this, and knows which numbers look/sound better to his sheep-like heard of non-factcheckers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 and that huge number of elderly collecting? this medicare insurance agent is in 100% support of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniegwilliams Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I thought Romney hates 99%, glad to know its only 47% now GradedOnACurve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 precisely this....and the man knows this, and knows which numbers look/sound better to his sheep-like heard of non-factcheckers I have a slight problem with the use of fact checkers. Does anyone on this board actually check facts? Does anyone sift through raw data and run analysis on it to come up with their own figures? We all hear/see/read information for sources that are supposed to do this for us (not that they aren't just recycling other people's findings as well). Ordinary citizens don't have the time or resources to compile this information so we are at the mercy of the media to provide it to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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