FangsAnalSatan Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I think this album is absolutely fantastic, but I've been irked by people calling it black metal when the only thing that is really black metal are the blast beats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisSigsFan Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Well...the vocals too. EDIT: Basically, take a band like Envy or Devil Sold His Soul, add blast beats and a bit more shoegaze, change the vocals to that high pitched scream, and you get the basics of Deafheaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Time to move on. Nope. Time for me to remind cart fillers that they are sad individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drds89 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Musical genres, categories/labels and other short-hands ('liberal' / 'Baptist' / 'Neo-Darwinist' etc.) are necessary as starting points for discussion with further clarification inevitable- just think about communication without them! But I agree with the sentiments above that when taken to the extreme of rigid pidgeon-holing, it will drive you crazy and you want to just start from scratch... but then the whole "Sounds LIke ______, but with these differences..." rears its ugly head. That being said, besides the screeching vocals of USBM (unsuccessful bowel movement in medical lingo, the US'BM' is quite interesting re: categories, and glad they don't burn churches and stuff), and loud, distortion/gain/overdrive/fuzztone guitars of nu-gaze, I hear a lot of the loud-soft/intense climax-resolution elements of post rock in Sunbather-- individual tracks and the album as a whole--per MisSigsFan above. dedlee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisSigsFan Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Musical genres, categories/labels and other short-hands ('liberal' / 'Baptist' / 'Neo-Darwinist' etc.) are necessary as starting points for discussion with further clarification inevitable- just think about communication without them! But I agree with the sentiments above that when taken to the extreme of rigid pidgeon-holing, it will drive you crazy and you want to just start from scratch... but then the whole "Sounds LIke ______, but with these differences..." rears its ugly head. That being said, besides the screeching vocals of USBM (unsuccessful bowel movement in medical lingo, the US'BM' is quite interesting re: categories, and glad they don't burn churches and stuff), and loud, distortion/gain/overdrive/fuzztone guitars of nu-gaze, I hear a lot of the loud-soft/intense climax-resolution elements of post rock in Sunbather-- individual tracks and the album as a whole--per MisSigsFan above. You put it so eloquently. drds89 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drds89 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Thanks, man. I wondered if too wordy, but I do enjoy discussing music - even the whole genre thing, as subjective as it all is. Gotta start somewhere (you do have to laugh a little that Mogwai, GY!BE, Sigur Ros, EiTS, and Mono are the big 5 of 'Post Rock' as diverse as their sounds are, a massive amount of territory Post Rock covers and not many of the bands really like that 'label' at all) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangsAnalSatan Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Well...the vocals too. EDIT: Basically, take a band like Envy or Devil Sold His Soul, add blast beats and a bit more shoegaze, change the vocals to that high pitched scream, and you get the basics of Deafheaven. The thing about the vocals is that they could really fit into a lot of genres. They aren't just definitively black metal. In all honesty I view this album as practically an indie rock album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotfactory Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 In all honesty I view this album as practically an indie rock album. Why is that? I don't get it. I don't hear many (if any) components of indie rock on this album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Just call it good music and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiatorhums Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Just call it good music and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I call it pop-punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I call it pop-punk./thread Rip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbenator Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I call it pop-punk. /thread LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 In all honesty I view this album as practically an indie rock album. What makes something "indie rock"? I really don't get that. And why is it even considered a sound? throwgncpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seamoney Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 What makes something "indie rock"? I really don't get that. And why is it even considered a sound? Right!?!? I have never understood it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangsAnalSatan Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 What makes something "indie rock"? I really don't get that. And why is it even considered a sound? The guitar progressions and chord washes remind me of some indie rock. Obviously it doesn't encapsulate the record perfectly, but I feel it fits better than black metal. But it's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 The guitar progressions and chord washes remind me of some indie rock.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Everyone's an expert now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elnombre91 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 It's just a fucking sweet album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkelly Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Can we all agree the term "core" should be involved somehow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Can we all agree the term "core" should be involved somehow? PC Music 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangsAnalSatan Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Everyone's an expert now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisSigsFan Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Can we all agree the term "core" should be involved somehow? Maybe post-hardcore, but just slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfiend Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 They invented a new genre related to shoegazing called sunbathing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC Music Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Can we all agree the term "core" should be involved somehow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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