Derek™ Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 That article is essentially downplaying anyone who thinks Sunbather is revolutionary, or anything new for that matter. Like it's not worth praising outside of "yeah, the album is good". That argument is one I've encountered before. But here's the thing; it's 2014. You're going to be hard pressed to come up with a completely original sound. I don't care if Alcest or An Autumn For Crippled Children have channeled this sound well before Deafheaven. And I don't care if "blackgaze" isn't an entirely new concept. The fact is that it's the first commercial success for the sound. And if the author is insisting that Deafheaven can't claim the brag rights of coining the genre... I say they're at least in a position to gloat about making it as popular and successful as it's become. And to me, that's worth recognizing and celebrating. Regardless of whether or not it's "been done before". jhulud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eight1echo Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I found this to be a somewhat interesting read: http://mediasnobs.com/2014/01/rambling-deafheaven-alcest-new-popularity-metal/ I got a pretty strong "I liked this before it was cool" vibe from this piece. Can't say I'm surprised considering the name of the website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 While your point is entirely valid, Derek, having not read the article in depth, I think it's fair to say that Sunbather was over hyped to have invented "blackgaze", creators of the genre, completely original sound, etc, etc... It's poor journalism (at best) to make those claims. Is this the first blackgaze? No. Did they create the genre? No. Is the sound original? No. Are they the first to bring the sound to pop culture? Yes, which is a huge achievement given the genre. (Most importantly) Is it a good album? Yes, it's fucking awesome. jhulud and Derek™ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 Yeah, I certainly don't think that they created a new genre. And any publication who believes otherwise is simply misinformed. But I think the fact that an album like Sunbather did become overhyped in 2013 is quite the feat. It's not exactly radio-friendly, but the [nearly] unanimous praise, exposure from Pitchfork, and cameo in Apple ads... I consider that impressive, definitely. It's a bit of a Catch-22, I suppose -- as much as I love the album, I would agree that - for a while there, at least - it felt like the album was inescapable in discussion or praise. Overhyped? Probably. But therein lies the accomplishment, I think... to have an album of Sunbather's nature enter the realm of bloated chat and that dreaded "overhyped" title, right up there with the likes of Kanye West and commercial juggernauts. To see any Deathwish release reach that sort of popularity is impressive, but when the record kicks as much ass it does, I think that's a beautiful combination worth celebrating. Overhyped or otherwise. jhulud, Neanderthal and daegor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Yeah, I certainly don't think that they created a new genre. And any publication who believes otherwise is simply misinformed. But I think the fact that an album like Sunbather[/b] did become overhyped in 2013 is quite the feat. It's not exactly radio-friendly, but the [nearly] unanimous praise, exposure from Pitchfork, and cameo in Apple ads... I consider that impressive, definitely. It's a bit of a Catch-22, I suppose -- as much as I love the album, I would agree that - for a while there, at least - it felt like the album was inescapable in discussion or praise. Overhyped? Probably. But therein lies the accomplishment, I think... to have an album of Sunbather's nature enter the realm of bloated chat and that dreaded "overhyped" title, right up there with the likes of Kanye West and commercial juggernauts. To see any Deathwish release reach that sort of popularity is impressive, but when the record kicks as much ass it does, I think that's a beautiful combination worth celebrating. Overhyped or otherwise. Hit the nail on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tre Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 It's not overhyped. The record is that good. throwgncpr, fugazi and jhulud 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Checked out that An Autumn For Crippled Children band referenced in that article. I liked what I heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neanderthal Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Does anyone wanna buy my ticket to see Deafheaven in Salt Late Feb 15th? I can't go anymore, thought this would be the first place to say something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tre Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Deafheaven has cool shit going on this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 DFHVN be blowin' up!!! ajismetal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aellerton Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Deafheaven has cool shit going on this year... Can't wait to see them at Gov Ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyShackelford Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 looks like this is being repressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 So random. Looks identical to the most recent press. I wonder if Tre or someone else can confirm if this is a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreetodisagree Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 This album is so good I looked forward to buying it again. Give me different colors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 For a third time? C'mon Tre; I wanna give you more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David The Gnome Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I feel like it far surpasses demand. Sure, Deafheaven is getting bigger, but not 5000 pressings bigger. NEVER FORGET. 3arl, agreetodisagree, ajismetal and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 NEVER FORGET.Holy shit that was like 8 months ago. Time flies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEN1XD0WN Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 i honestly hate myself for sleeping on this record all year. and now its all ive listened to for the past 2 weeks. SO FUCKING GOOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gippej Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Still haven't listened to the whole album yet, might have to if it gets repressed again. Kinda surprised there hasn't been a white/pink variant (as far as I know?) would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyShackelford Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 So random. Looks identical to the most recent press. I wonder if Tre or someone else can confirm if this is a thing. Still haven't listened to the whole album yet, might have to if it gets repressed again. Kinda surprised there hasn't been a white/pink variant (as far as I know?) would make sense. there is no IF its happening. it is. piratespress.com/rotw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 there is no IF its happening. it is. piratespress.com/rotw So they're doing another mass press of the previous variant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyShackelford Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 i dont recall an opaque pink and bright yellow variant being pressed before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinji Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 i dont recall an opaque pink and bright yellow variant being pressed before. There's a pink/clear "piss" yellow variant, maybe the new one is pink/yellow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyShackelford Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 fair enough, i didnt realize they did it before. either way, good for them for selling so many copies. it will be less of a headache for some people if theyre the same colors. Shinji 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreetodisagree Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I pulled out my pink/piss to compare before I posted. If it's not exactly the same it's daaaamn close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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