jhook Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Are you in one? Do you hate them? Do you want to be in one? Discuss. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 They served a purpose in history, but i feel their time is over and they are unnecessary relics at this point. TFP and cephcarn4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 The days of burning down buildings and rioting are over but they are still serve a very strong purpose to protect pensions and health care.As you can tell, I am in one. Haha. ExtraFox, anthemforadoomed and ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 They served a purpose in history, but i feel their time is over and they are unnecessary relics at this point. they very much still have a pupose in society today, some more than others, but the idea that organizing a collective voice for workplace conditions, compensation, etc no longer serves a purpose is rather close minded. not everyone has it great in our country, there are a lot of shitty jobs that are less shitty because of union-protection. casey, anthemforadoomed and ExtraFox 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I used to be in the ~meat cutters union back when I worked in a deli during my summers home from college. Boy did it suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I'm part of a union. we're connected to a print shop so I think it has more to do with that, but the designers are in it as well. I'm not heavily involved at all. I know $10.21 comes out of my paycheck every week for union dues. I know they write up our contract each year and are part of contract negotiations. I remember walking by the conference room last year during contract negotiations, boss was screaming at our art director. I guess he thought we asked for waaaaaay to much. We ended up getting a few of the things we asked for. Overall I think we are well taken care of by our union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I'm part of a union. we're connected to a print shop so I think it has more to do with that, but the designers are in it as well. I'm not heavily involved at all. I know $10.21 comes out of my paycheck every week for union dues. I know they write up our contract each year and are part of contract negotiations. I remember walking by the conference room last year during contract negotiations, boss was screaming at our art director. I guess he thought we asked for waaaaaay to much. We ended up getting a few of the things we asked for. Overall I think we are well taken care of by our union. what union represents your employees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billya Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I was a member of Unite Here for 7 years. I put myself through college with the help of their scholarship contest, so I had no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 I have become heavily involved in mine. I ask that if you are in one you do the same, especially if you are young. The rumor of a lazy union worker are not true. I know I will never be a millionaire but I don't want to work until I die or live in fear of getting sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 As a D.P.W employee I am a member of Afscme. Council 93 Local 1700 to be exact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 im 2 months away from getting my masters in labor relations, studied a lot of labor/employee rights law and contract crap. unions just completely fascinate me! I was a member of the UFCW for 3 years in college and I worked for PennDot as a seasonal worker, but was unable to join the union, but worked with union employees for two summers as well. havent been in a union environment since then, but ive been working with young adults who have been getting jobs and joining unions (IBEW, Teamsters, USW, IUOE) so thats been a good time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 like most things in the world, there are pros and cons. good ones and bad ones. BuzzersonKillwell and jtcohenour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Mike T have you ever done anything with Afscme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 we print this on a lot of our stuff. union bug but I know I also get mail from teamsters too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Madie, you should look into it. Find out where your ten bucks and change go every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 like most things in the world, there are pros and cons. good ones and bad ones. This. I worked as a janitor in a few different high schools for a few years, then as an school aide. One union was way more helpful than the other. My main problem is with seniority, and the older some people are with some union jobs the more useless they are and are hard to fire. That said, they are also necessary to avoid a new superior (boss, manager, chancellor etc) coming into a picture and wanting to clean house or abuse workers just because. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptyhanded Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 This. I worked as a janitor in a few different high schools for a few years, then as an school aide. One union was way more helpful than the other. My main problem is with seniority, and the older some people are with some union jobs the more useless they are and are hard to fire. That said, they are also necessary to avoid a new superior (boss, manager, chancellor etc) coming into a picture and wanting to clean house or abuse workers just because. this is pretty much my only issue with unions as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 but at the same time, that same problem is what keeps good employees from losing their job when management looks to undermine the employees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I know. Seniority helps people who have been working for X years from losing their jobs because they want cheaper labor vs experience. The older janitors I worked with mostly did their part. The older school aides were mostly useless and incompetent. It is what it is. I am generally supportive of unions, but they're not perfect. Neither is anything really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbrh2001 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I'm not part of one, though I wish I were in one. You can see through corporate America these days, the need to keep (and expand) the use of unions in this country. Without them, the majority of us will eventually get skull fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 This. I worked as a janitor in a few different high schools for a few years, then as an school aide. One union was way more helpful than the other. My main problem is with seniority, and the older some people are with some union jobs the more useless they are and are hard to fire. That said, they are also necessary to avoid a new superior (boss, manager, chancellor etc) coming into a picture and wanting to clean house or abuse workers just because. I am a custodian now at an elementary school. We are merged with the DPW. I agree with everything you posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 National Conference of Firemen & Oilers, and no. They let the General Foreman and Superintendents walk all over us, yet gladly take their cut out of our paychecks on a regular basis. We have to be unionized to work, I'm sure many of us would opt out if given the choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albie007 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Teamster member here Luve it. Good pay/benefits. And if I don't screw up and get fired in 22 yrs ill get a pension! Every local/contract is soo different though. That's why being active and involved is so important. Fight the good fight. anthemforadoomed and jhook 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthemforadoomed Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 As long as we live in a capitalist system unions are a dire necessity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 National Conference of Firemen & Oilers, and no. They let the General Foreman and Superintendents walk all over us, yet gladly take their cut out of our paychecks on a regular basis. We have to be unionized to work, I'm sure many of us would opt out if given the choice. do you think your job would be better non-unionized? serious question, not trolling or anything. does the union provide you with the necessary equipment and protection on the job in your CBA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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