dynamitekid Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Ho. Lee. Shit. http://kstp.com/news/zachary-gontard-murder-charges-st-louis-park-overdose-death/4586055/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Don't sell heroin. dynamitekid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_James_Champ Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, Tidal Wave said: Stay away from heroin. Fixed. Also, I have no fucking clue who this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTacoMunster Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, THE_James_Champ said: Also, I have no fucking clue who this is. no worries, youre not missing much homie. aopps42 and THE_James_Champ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, KingTacoMunster said: no worries, youre not missing much homie. GASP. TAKE THAT BACK! And also. HOLY. FUCK. KingTacoMunster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamitekid Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 22 minutes ago, THE_James_Champ said: Fixed. Also, I have no fucking clue who this is. One of the singers from Dear Landlord. Used to be in House Boat and Off With Their Heads among other things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 27 minutes ago, dynamitekid said: One of the singers from Dear Landlord. Used to be in House Boat and Off With Their Heads among other things Still no idea. dantheriver, nancy_raygun, KingTacoMunster and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_James_Champ Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Nope....never heard of any of those. Tommy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamitekid Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 cool? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Satan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, THE_James_Champ said: Nope....never heard of any of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 House boat, off with their heads, and dear landlord are all pretty similar. They sound like No Idea Records type bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Saw this on Punknews. I'm assuming the heroin wasn't cut with fentanyl and the victim used both on his own accord. It's kinda weird he'd get a third degree murder charge. Wouldn't Involuntary Manslaughter be more fitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, Shitty Rambo said: Saw this on Punknews. I'm assuming the heroin wasn't cut with fentanyl and the victim used both on his own accord. It's kinda weird he'd get a third degree murder charge. Wouldn't Involuntary Manslaughter be more fitting? Yeah, if they're charging him with any murder charge they have to prove premeditation, meaning he would have had to cut it with fentanyl with the express intent to kill this kid, right? Pretty hard to prove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 56 minutes ago, Tidal Wave said: House boat, off with their heads, and dear landlord are all pretty similar. They sound like No Idea Records type bands. Meh. You're right though, I listened to a little bit of the song Satan posted. Not really my thing, which explains why I didn't recognize any of those bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Ghost of Randy Savage said: Yeah, if they're charging him with any murder charge they have to prove premeditation, meaning he would have had to cut it with fentanyl with the express intent to kill this kid, right? Pretty hard to prove. Someone pointed out to me on another platform that if it's a felony charge it's considered murder, if it's a misdemeanor then it's manslaughter. Not sure how true that is, but that could be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Shitty Rambo said: Someone pointed out to me on another platform that if it's a felony charge it's considered murder, if it's a misdemeanor than it's manslaughter. Not sure how true that is, but that could be the case. Yeah, I was just looking into it and apparently voluntary manslaughter and third-degree murder are for all intents and purposes the same thing, but they still have to prove that it was intentional to get that charge to stick apparently. edit: Some states still require proof of "malice aforethought" in third-degree murder cases though. Edited August 31, 2017 by The Ghost of Randy Savage Shitty Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Shitty Rambo said: Saw this on Punknews. I'm assuming the heroin wasn't cut with fentanyl and the victim used both on his own accord. It's kinda weird he'd get a third degree murder charge. Wouldn't Involuntary Manslaughter be more fitting? I read somewhere that it was cut with fentanyl... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 "The complaint states an autopsy determined he died from a mix of heroin and fentanyl." http://kstp.com/news/zachary-gontard-murder-charges-st-louis-park-overdose-death/4586055/ Lots of alleged's in there though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 58 minutes ago, Satan said: I read somewhere that it was cut with fentanyl... I've seen people saying that Gontard was running shit, not dealing it. If that's the case they'll probably cut him a deal if he rats out the dealer. He might as well, being a snitch isn't nearly as bad as going to prison for 25 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 wow. homeboy was selling heroin on reddit: https://www.gomn.com/news/mn-heroin-dealer-arranged-sales-on-reddit-murder-charge-says pretty tarded if you ask me. Tommy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 fuck this dude Tommy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Shitty Rambo said: I've seen people saying that Gontard was running shit, not dealing it. If that's the case they'll probably cut him a deal if he rats out the dealer. He might as well, being a snitch isn't nearly as bad as going to prison for 25 years. Well, until that dealer's friend comes over and kills you. I don't think they have enough to put him away for the third-degree. Also this: 2 minutes ago, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said: fuck this dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Shitty Rambo said: Saw this on Punknews. I'm assuming the heroin wasn't cut with fentanyl and the victim used both on his own accord. It's kinda weird he'd get a third degree murder charge. Wouldn't Involuntary Manslaughter be more fitting? A commenter posted this on the Punknews site Link here: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=609.195 Edited September 1, 2017 by GradedOnACurve Shitty Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 37 minutes ago, GradedOnACurve said: A commenter posted this on the Punknews site Link here: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=609.195 Huh. How 'bout dem apples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronchitis Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I get on here very rarely these days and it amazes me to see the same group of cool guy assholes still doing the same shit they were doing two years ago. funtitled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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