codeine Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 IF I go into any store around town they don't have signs that say make offer, they have price tags. Makes it so much simpler. I either like the price or don't and move on. If someone has "make offer" I usually dont even waste my time.... Many other cultures don't work this way. Lots of people outside America like the barter system because it lets them know what value you place on their goods. In many places if they tell you a price and you don't counter-offer, they will be offended. It's considered rude in many cultures to accept the advertised price without bartering. Also because of the collectable nature of vinyl is a totally different ballgame from buying stuff you just get at any random store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I don't live in another culture...and yes all the records in my local record stores have prices on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackoat Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 My feelings are somewhere in between the two arguments, obviously leaning toward not liking it. In my view, what's the point of entertaining offers when you really aren't going to accept anything that isn't near the price you've created in your head, I'm assuming, unless it's above? If I have a $100 record and ask for offers, I'm looking for $100+. But is it really fair to be looking and hoping for that +? If you have a record--regardless of if I know a general going-for value or not--I'm way too afraid to offend and look like a jerk by lowballing, and why would I want to waste my own money and go over? I feel like value is value, give or take a few bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeine Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 'Make an offer' also serves as a 'silent auction' process. If someone else offers $10 more than you the seller will likely go with them. It's supposed to encourage people to be intelligent and competitive with their offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackoat Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 That's cool. That makes sense. I guess I'm just not in that mindset. First come, first serve. That's fair to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfiend Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Squirrel has two syllables. It's not a fucking squirl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeine Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 That's cool. That makes sense. I guess I'm just not in that mindset. First come, first serve. That's fair to me. Well obv it's a dick move to pull the plug on a negotiation over like $5, but if you check your inbox and have multiple offers on the same record, I think it makes sense to go with the juiciest. Although for me, better feedback, and just general politeness overrides a better offer. I once sold a VC user a TMV - Frances the Mute 3xLP for like $25 just because it had been played a few times and had a minor spine ding. I paid like $40 for it in store. That's the price I set, if I'd asked for offers I would've gotten much more. But I don't think the offer system is an inherently bad thing. I think there's just good and bad negotiation. Set prices are good because it circumvents part of the negotiation process. But sometimes it's not so bad to actually interact a little with other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Avatar Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 make an offer in a nutshell: buyer - "please offer more than I am expecting to get" seller - "please accept this offer way below ebay" FangsAnalSatan and codeine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man Suits Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Many other cultures don't work this way. Lots of people outside America like the barter system because it lets them know what value you place on their goods. In many places if they tell you a price and you don't counter-offer, they will be offended. It's considered rude in many cultures to accept the advertised price without bartering. I lived in a culture that, today, uses the barter system, and it was extremely stressful for me to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeine Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 'Make an offer' often benefits buyers too, because sellers are often willing to let something go below advertised price. Not low-ball below, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Someone on here asked for offers for a record I really wanted once. When I made one I felt was reasonable, he was a total dick about it, saying it was a joke and he was just going to ebay it. Well, it ended maybe a dollar more than I had offered. And in what wasn't my classiest move to date, I pointed it out in the thread. He then spent the next few months smiting me relentlessly. Good times on VC. If you ask for offers, don't be THAT GUY. stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Someone on here asked for offers for a record I really wanted once. When I made one I felt was reasonable, he was a total dick about it, saying it was a joke and he was just going to ebay it. Well, it ended maybe a dollar more than I had offered. And in what wasn't my classiest move to date, I pointed it out in the thread. He then spent the next few months smiting me relentlessly. Good times on VC. If you ask for offers, don't be THAT GUY. Dying to know who it was, but I understand if you don't want to disclose that info or spark that flame back up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youinreverse Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 A girl I work with says "cheese and rice" where most people would use "Jesus Christ" as an expletive. I don't know what it is about it, but it really gets under my skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscodeman Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Squirrel has two syllables. It's not a fucking squirl. My friend and I had a drunk conversation similar to this regarding his name - Kyle. Do you think Kyle is pronounced as two syllables, or one? We were unsure and I don't remember what conclusion we came up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hecollec+or Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 A girl I work with says "cheese and rice" where most people would use "Jesus Christ" as an expletive. I don't know what it is about it, but it really gets under my skin. Reminds me of the Simpsons: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfiend Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 My friend and I had a drunk conversation similar to this regarding his name - Kyle. Do you think Kyle is pronounced as two syllables, or one? We were unsure and I don't remember what conclusion we came up with. Kyle - two syllables Karl - one syllable On the subject of names, I hate when people call me Tarm and not Tom. Unless you're a cute Irish girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 When people mix up 'well' with 'good', and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 When people mix up 'well' with 'good', and vice versa. It is well that you told us that, I hope you're doing good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hecollec+or Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 When people mix up 'well' with 'good', and vice versa. Why would someone mix up a place where you get water w/ an adjective? TheGhostOfRandySavage and Team Avatar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Why would someone mix up a place where you get water w/ an adjective? haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackoat Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Squirrel has two syllables. It's not a fucking squirl. Jaguar. Jagwire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Jaguar. Jagwire. What are you trying to say? You hate it when people say jagwire, or you hate it when people say jag-you-ar, or you hate it when people say it jag-oire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Avatar Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 i hate when people say "yes, no, i totally know what youre talking about". they essentially agree with you, disagree with you, and then repeat it in their own words so they can take credit for it. everyone does it and since i've noticed it it drives me insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackoat Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 What are you trying to say? You hate it when people say jagwire, or you hate it when people say jag-you-ar, or you hate it when people say it jag-oire I hate jagwire, it's in the same wheelhouse as nuke-u-ler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danionly Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 A girl I work with says "cheese and rice" where most people would use "Jesus Christ" as an expletive. I don't know what it is about it, but it really gets under my skin. I do this on occasion. If you've ever seen Wedding Crashers edited for tv, they make the most ridiculous edits for cursing. One of which is 'cheese and rice' instead of 'jesus christ'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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