HoneyFrosted Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I was just cleaning out my email inbox and came across a couple items I ordered a looooong time ago but simply never received. (7/19/14) -Best Buds Split 7" (Nouns, Pope, r∆chel) [Paco Tapes] -r∆chel Cassette Tape $13.00 (9/22/14) -White Coyote S/T Cassette [White Coyote Bandcamp] $6.00 (White Coyote visited VC in February to apologize and swear that the tapes were coming eventually) (10/18/14) -Death Grips - Exmilitary Cassette [Ormolycka] $9.16 (This is still buyable on their website) I was just curious about similar occurances to other VC members, for my own sick reasons. Ever order things and just never get them and can't get ahold of anybody to ask about it? For the record, I've contacted all these people months ago, and just figured since I exceeded the paypal dispute window that it's just a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 So, the "aw shucks I'm just a kid in a band with a small label- what is this email contraption? sorry Ive been out of it all week/month/year. Sometimes life just gets in the way" thing actually works sometimes? I thought everyone was ok not being cool and pre-emptively sends multiple emails and then files a PayPal dispute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethrock Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I don't order many records anymore due to exchange rate/shipping prices but I have two email folders for "Records ordered" and "Records received." When I receive my order confirmation I move it to the one folder, then move it to the other folder once I get it. It's worked great for 5+ years. Cloudsbelow, mychemicalrecords, cfrancese5 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chamb117 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I don't order many records anymore due to exchange rate/shipping prices but I have two email folders for "Records ordered" and "Records received." When I receive my order confirmation I move it to the one folder, then move it to the other folder once I get it. It's worked great for 5+ years. i like that system! i have a section in my excel file (for my collection) that lists incoming records with expected release date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyFrosted Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 I don't order many records anymore due to exchange rate/shipping prices but I have two email folders for "Records ordered" and "Records received." When I receive my order confirmation I move it to the one folder, then move it to the other folder once I get it. It's worked great for 5+ years. I used to keep a list on a simple notepad file, whenever I ordered something it went on the list with the date ordered and the date expected. Since I order things somewhat regularly that worked for a while to remind me of things I had purchased. I don't remember why I stopped, I think I had a small period where I wasn't waiting for anything and I was too broke to buy anything, so I stopped checking the list. It's been utter chaos since that day. So, the "aw shucks I'm just a kid in a band with a small label- what is this email contraption? sorry Ive been out of it all week/month/year. Sometimes life just gets in the way" thing actually works sometimes? I thought everyone was ok not being cool and pre-emptively sends multiple emails and then files a PayPal dispute. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. Besides, these things are the only items I can remember never showing, it's gotta be less than 0.1% of my collection, I've had very little practice with the email gunslinging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyhi Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I also have an "incoming records" google doc, I definitely recommend it if you buy a lot online. Otherwise shit just falls through the cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aych Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I ordered a Radiator Hospital 7" from Party Nogg exactly a year ago (still have the confirmation email) right before RH went on a tour and never actually got it. I was a bit disappointed, but it was only $6 total, so I just let it go. No sense in getting up in arms over $6. Also, as far as keeping track of stuff I order online goes, I save the confirmation email(s) and make a new entry in the "Incoming" section of my DF list, then move it to its proper section once I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamalatapes Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I was just cleaning out my email inbox and came across a couple items I ordered a looooong time ago but simply never received. (7/19/14) -Best Buds Split 7" (Nouns, Pope, r∆chel) [Paco Tapes] -r∆chel Cassette Tape $13.00 (9/22/14) -White Coyote S/T Cassette [White Coyote Bandcamp] $6.00 (White Coyote visited VC in February to apologize and swear that the tapes were coming eventually) (10/18/14) -Death Grips - Exmilitary Cassette [Ormolycka] $9.16 (This is still buyable on their website) I was just curious about similar occurances to other VC members, for my own sick reasons. Ever order things and just never get them and can't get ahold of anybody to ask about it? For the record, I've contacted all these people months ago, and just figured since I exceeded the paypal dispute window that it's just a loss. It's not a loss my friend. This is what I do when a label doesn't want to get back to me within 5 fucking weekdays. That Saturday morning comes, I get on my laptop. I fucking sit there and write the e-mail. Then I send that mother fucker 20 times minimum. So it clogs up their shitty ass free g-mail client and when they open their client, they'll see only your e-mail. Had to do this some shitty label in Portland and to Captured Tracks back in the day. Labels need to stop expecting the whole, "Oh we're small run label and we're so busy" bullshit. If you're running a business and providing a product and a customer gave you their money, hard earned money, for said "date" you got to pay the piper. HoneyFrosted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyFrosted Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 So it clogs up their shitty ass free g-mail client and when they open their client, they'll see only your e-mail. I've considered doing something like this so often. I guess in the back of my mind it seems like a 'dick move', but hey, so is taking people's money and not sending anything. maxweidler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostTrail Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I really should start doing the Google sheet/email folder thing. The only thing I know I haven't received was a Kickstarter backing...but that's a whole separate animal. It was the Stomacher - Clara campaign...oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I also never got that Best Buds split from Paco Tapes. By the time I got concerned it was too late to file a PayPal claim. That's the only thing I've ever not received and didn't get a refund for out of hundreds of online orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I just keep a running list of what's coming, whether I've paid, or they charge when it's shipped, where I ordered from, and an approximate delivery date on my phone. When it arrives it comes off the list. I'm glad paypal extended the amount of time you're allowed to file a claim, hopefully this won't happen again to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc32137 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I also keep a file of incoming stuff. No issues yet, other than my copy of TOYPAJ from RJ.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicondevil Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I ordered a shirt directly from The End Of This Ocean about two years ago. One day realized I didn't get it, then wrote them at their store add and on FB. Was in time to file a paypal and got my money back. One of the members JUST wrote me back and blamed it on the person handling the orders. I told them I got the money and I'm over them. Bands/labels who treat their customers like crap can go get fcked. There is a dude on these boards that did a similar thing. I don't support his band anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_raygun Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I've considered doing something like this so often. I guess in the back of my mind it seems like a 'dick move', but hey, so is taking people's money and not sending anything. I've only run into this problem a couple times and I hear you with the feeling the dick move part. I've opened PayPal disputes and gotten my money back. But I think twice it's happened I've ordered directly from bands and then opened disputes to find out they've been on tour and then they have to find someone to ship my order because now this dispute is open. I have a tough time listening to those albums now because I feel like a jerk. Right now I'm still waiting on that Plan-It-X comp that got Kickstarted last year. They've pushed back the release date so many times that I'm starting to worry that Chris Clavin just used the money to pay his rent or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 It's not a loss my friend. This is what I do when a label doesn't want to get back to me within 5 fucking weekdays. That Saturday morning comes, I get on my laptop. I fucking sit there and write the e-mail. Then I send that mother fucker 20 times minimum. So it clogs up their shitty ass free g-mail client and when they open their client, they'll see only your e-mail. Had to do this some shitty label in Portland and to Captured Tracks back in the day. Labels need to stop expecting the whole, "Oh we're small run label and we're so busy" bullshit. If you're running a business and providing a product and a customer gave you their money, hard earned money, for said "date" you got to pay the piper. You seem like an awful person topshelfsquad and kk-downing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRINCE Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Dude ORMOLYCKA is THE WORST, I am still waiting on an order from August.. homeboy just dug himself into a huge whole when he was advertising free Death Grips bootleg tapes, kind of shitty that he won't answer emails either.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throughbeingcruel Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I've only run into this problem a couple times and I hear you with the feeling the dick move part. I've opened PayPal disputes and gotten my money back. But I think twice it's happened I've ordered directly from bands and then opened disputes to find out they've been on tour and then they have to find someone to ship my order because now this dispute is open. I have a tough time listening to those albums now because I feel like a jerk. Right now I'm still waiting on that Plan-It-X comp that got Kickstarted last year. They've pushed back the release date so many times that I'm starting to worry that Chris Clavin just used the money to pay his rent or something. Bloomington rent prices do suck, but I highly doubt that happened. I don't know him personally, but the dude who runs the skateshop talks very highly of Chris and PIX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinji Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Remember when hundreds of people bought that TOYPAJ Blink 182 album and nothing ever happened and that guy just got thousands of dollars for doing nothing and was never turned over to the police lol that was siiiick maxweidler and cambionic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 You seem like an awful person Wildflanges of the world can sometimes help keep sellers honest while the rest of us do the patient, nice-guy, sensitive vinyl collector thing. If it were all vinyl sweethearts, some folks would never get around to their half of the whole buyer/seller agreement. Cloudsbelow and nancy_raygun 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinji Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Remember that Virgil guy lol Even better, remember when someone posted a picture of him at a fucking basketball game or something hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitterhappier Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Aural Exploits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyFrosted Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 I've only run into this problem a couple times and I hear you with the feeling the dick move part. I've opened PayPal disputes and gotten my money back. But I think twice it's happened I've ordered directly from bands and then opened disputes to find out they've been on tour and then they have to find someone to ship my order because now this dispute is open. I have a tough time listening to those albums now because I feel like a jerk. Right now I'm still waiting on that Plan-It-X comp that got Kickstarted last year. They've pushed back the release date so many times that I'm starting to worry that Chris Clavin just used the money to pay his rent or something. Right. Like, the White Coyote guy. It was supposed to be a small run tape out of 9, probably because he didn't really expect people to buy it. And then I posted it to Cassette Collective and he got bought out in a day. I think he said he was dissatisfied with the way they came out so he got someone else to do it right. Now, I realize it's stupid to put things up for sale if you're 'not ready' to sell them or if they're low quality. And I understand that what I said doesn't justify an 8 month wait for some tapes to be made. I guess I'd rather be cool with this guy rather than being the angry consumer to your producer. I've bugged people like Big Bill and Bewilderbeast on Facebook for dumb little tapes, and even though it took months they seem to come through in the end. I guess I always hope it can work like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
distinctlydustin Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I ordered that Ex-Military tape the other day. Hopefully I get it before I die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum7 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I had the "well shucks, we had no idea making 20 lathe cut records would take so long, we have no idea how to ship them, now we don't have anything to ship them in" problem with the band The Box Tiger. Waited patiently with a few emails here and there and it showed up about 6 months later. A real wild ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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