SE7EN Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I edited in another question. Please show a picture if you can so we can help you. Sure, I'll try and upload one later if I have the chance. Not sure how you can help me though (unless you work for the store I purchased it from!)?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Does that mean that a record not matching its mock-up is a good enough reason to return it, because 'it's not what I paid for'? wtf? Ah "it's not what I paid for." The soccer mom mantra can really be applied to anything by anyone these days. mssskat184 and Eliminator Jr. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Sure, I'll try and upload one later if I have the chance. Not sure how you can help me though (unless you work for the store I purchased it from!)?! I could explain what happened if it's what I think happened and it'll blow your mind. drds89 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE7EN Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Does that mean that a record not matching its mock-up is a good enough reason to return it, because 'it's not what I paid for'? wtf? If you purchased a white record (or any other colour) and it had several large marks on it that were clearly not meant to be there, you wouldn't ask for a replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliminator Jr. Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Ah "it's not what I paid for." The soccer mom mantra can really be applied to anything by anyone these days. it's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 If you purchased a white record (or any other colour) and it had a several large marks on it that were clearly not meant to be there, you wouldn't ask for a replacement? No. Probably upwards of 75% of white vinyl has marks on it. Pressing plants make many colors. Black shows up on white vinyl. It's probably good that you'll be playing this on a turntable and it won't affect playback at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I think a pretty big determining factor in a refund will be whether those black lines are a marbling effect that's pressed into the variant itself, or if there are post-press markings / scratches that effect play. The descriptions sounds like the latter, which is grounds for a return. (Having an alternation in the colorway is not, though.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE7EN Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 No. Probably upwards of 75% of white vinyl has marks on it. Pressing plants make many colors. Black shows up on white vinyl. It's probably good that you'll be playing this on a turntable and it won't affect playback at all. I have never had serious markings on any coloured records that i've purchased. I can accept a small blemish here and there, but these are dark black lines inches long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliminator Jr. Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 If you purchased a white record (or any other colour) and it had a several large marks on it that were clearly not meant to be there, you wouldn't ask for a replacement? If it has impact on the playability to the point that its not enjoyable, yes, I would. If its nothing but color residue from a previous pressing the machine made that doesn't affect playing in any way, absolutely not. I buy records to listen to them. I don't give a fuck if they're pretty or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 My pink copy has black streaks (and green). It sounds great. Also, if I purchased a white record, and it had black in it, I would assume they had just pressed a black record, and then it would never cross my mind again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE7EN Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I think a pretty big determining factor in a refund will be whether those black lines are a marbling effect that's pressed into the variant itself, or if there are post-press markings / scratches that effect play. The descriptions sounds like the latter, which is grounds for a return. (Having an alternation in the colorway is not, though.) Yep, 100% not part of the marbling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I want pics! 100% guaranteed to bring the lols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE7EN Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 My pink copy has black streaks (and green). It sounds great. Also, if I purchased a white record, and it had black in it, I would assume they had just pressed a black record, and then it would never cross my mind again. Fair enough, personal preference obviously, but if I've paid X amount for something that I worked hard to buy, I have a limit of what I can write off as an acceptable amount of damage and defects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliminator Jr. Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Fair enough, personal preference obviously, but if I've paid X amount for something that I worked hard to buy, I have a limit of what I can write off as an acceptable amount of damage and defects. As long as it doesn't affect the playability of the record, it's neither damage nor defect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Fair enough, personal preference obviously, but if I've paid X amount for something that I worked hard to buy, I have a limit of what I can write off as an acceptable amount of damage and defects.The jury is still out on whether or not what you're talking about is actually damage. Upload a pic. Or better yet, play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE7EN Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I want pics! 100% guaranteed to bring the lols What is with everyone here? I can't ask a simple question about whether anyone else had damage and marking to their records without being bombarded with sarcasm and interrogation?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 it's not damage, or a defect. You're paying for a circular 12 inch slab of variable color that plays music. Does the slab play music? You got what you paid for. If you feel the urge to MURDER anyone involved with a black streak on a white record you should probably start your own label called Third Reich UberVinyl and only sell that sweet pure white. WAXXX, No This Is Patrick, poweredbytrust and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yep, 100% not part of the marbling! Do you even understand what he means though? Why won't you answer us, can you see the marks protruding physically above the grooves on your record? What type of record player are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 What is with everyone here? I can't ask a simple question about whether anyone else had damage and marking to their records without being bombarded with sarcasm and interrogation?!You have no idea how many times someone has a situation similar to yours. 95% of the time the record plays fine. It gets annoying. That's why people are reacting this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethrock Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Do you even understand what he means though? Why won't you answer us, can you see the marks protruding physically above the grooves on your record? What type of record player are you using? Twist: he doesn't even have a turntable WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliminator Jr. Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 What is with everyone here? I can't ask a simple question about whether anyone else had damage and marking to their records without being bombarded with sarcasm and interrogation?! You have not made a clear statement regarding the playability of your record. If those streaks affect playing and render your copy unenjoyable, return it. If you don't like the looks of it and return it because of that, despite it being 100% fine, you're a dick. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Also, maybe labels should just go back to pressing black vinyl. Seriously. What you are paying for is the sound quality and playability of the record. Think of the color of the record as a bonus for buying vinyl. It's not the labels fault if the color isn't exactly as they predicted. Nor can they take the hit to scrap 1,000 records and repress them on NEON IN YOUR FUCKING FACE PINK. Had the colored vinyl been more expensive, then I would be a little annoyed too. I still wouldn't request a refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE7EN Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 As long as it doesn't affect the playability of the record, it's neither damage nor defect. So what you're basically saying is that if an item (whatever it may be) is marked / coloured etc. differently to what was advertised at the time of purchase, that is OK? Personally, I don't find that acceptable, but hey that's just my opinion. Obviously how the record plays is most important, but I do still care a lot about how my vinyl collection looks... Again, that's just my opinion. If you don't agree and have a different outlook on things, that's cool, but there's no need for everyone to jump down my throat because I simply asked a question and gave my thoughts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 So what you're basically saying is that if an item (whatever it may be) is marked / coloured etc. differently to what was advertised at the time of purchase, that is OK? Personally, I don't find that acceptable, but hey that's just my opinion. Obviously how the record plays is most important, but I do still care a lot about how my vinyl collection looks... Again, that's just my opinion. If you don't agree and have a different outlook on things, that's cool, but there's no need for everyone to jump down my throat because I simply asked a question and gave my thoughts! You should stop collecting vinyl records. It's an imperfect medium. That's part of what makes it "art". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 So what you're basically saying is that if an item (whatever it may be) is marked / coloured etc. differently to what was advertised at the time of purchase, that is OK? Personally, I don't find that acceptable, but hey that's just my opinion. Obviously how the record plays is most important, but I do still care a lot about how my vinyl collection looks... Again, that's just my opinion. If you don't agree and have a different outlook on things, that's cool, but there's no need for everyone to jump down my throat because I simply asked a question and gave my thoughts! Then your opinion is cancerous. It's a bummer when a color doesn't come as described but these are giant metal mechanical beasts made 50 years ago to heat up and melt plastic between metal plates. If you can't wrap your head around the fact that it's not something made to exact specifications by inputting something into a computer then you should watch some videos on the process or something, it isn't that hard to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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