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4 minutes ago, Sunshine said:

I went to my local just now and all I had to do was show them I didn't have my head up my ass to get a copy. Definitely sounds better in my car CD player than what I was listening to on Spotify. Here's a download code if anyone wants it.

 

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I'll give you $4000 for it.

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9 minutes ago, Derek™ said:

On topic or not, this shit is why I log in.  Tool thread is back.  Thanks guys.

Hey, this is all your fault. You asked me a question and I rudely explained myself and now everyone is mad at me for talking. And for answering follow up questions. You did this.....

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Someone asked how we knew this would be hard to find? The fact it was pulled from Amazon after a short while being available for pre-order. That even made me get several orders just in case as I didn't want to miss out after all these years of waiting!

 

protip....when the vinyl release pre-order is up...get on it! 

/Endrant

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14 minutes ago, bigdz68 said:

Someone asked how we knew this would be hard to find? The fact it was pulled from Amazon after a short while being available for pre-order. That even made me get several orders just in case as I didn't want to miss out after all these years of waiting!

 

protip....when the vinyl release pre-order is up...get on it! 

/Endrant

Good thinking. I should have gotten the hint from that. When vinyl goes up, I'm killin' old ladies who aren't even in my path to get to the first device I can get my hands on to  pre-order this motherfucker from.

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4 minutes ago, Fowty Dollaz said:

So, this album is really impressive. I kind of anticipated being let down, so that probably helped it (for me). I really like it. Looking forward to seeing them in November. 

Yeah, I gotta say, there are a couple parts that feel like they drag a bit but I'm not even trippin'. Overall, this is a magnificent offering. As I stated earlier, I'm gonna flip shit when vinyl goes up for pre.

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11 minutes ago, mcpherson123 said:

Yeah, I gotta say, there are a couple parts that feel like they drag a bit but I'm not even trippin'. Overall, this is a magnificent offering. As I stated earlier, I'm gonna flip shit when vinyl goes up for pre.

I have my Pay Pal ready.

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3 minutes ago, dantheriver said:

Bump. Anybody know? I wanna sit close enough to have Maynard spit on me.

Doubting it since regular sales are only a few days away and there is no mention of fan club presale codes that I've sen through Ticketmatser. Plus doesn't the tool army generally do nothing for their regular tours? But I do know the Detroit gig has "Platinum Tickets" as an option meaning the best seats will be reserved for those looking to spend hundreds more than the people 5 rows behind them.

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Ok. Ranking time

 

6. Opiate - Unfair to compare to a bunch of other full albums with it being an EP but its integral to the catalog. I pretty much only still care to hear the title track.

5. 10,000 Days - Plenty of strong stuff on here and a couple of tracks I could never live without but as a full album, the sequencing doesn't thrill me and the something about it still feels a little off to this day. Not shitting on it at all but something about it simply doesn't gel into the catalog like I thought it would. I think it might make all the difference in the world for me if "Intension" were placed earlier in the track list or was just shorter. I don't know. Rubs me the wrong way.

4. Undertow - The beginning of it all proper for me. There is only one song that I feel is weak but all the rest is really killer. Very raw compositionally and not overproduced. Killer aggression and production has the right amount of sludge.

3. Fear Inoculum - Such a surprise out of the gate. This album will probably rotate around the top three spots of this ranking as time goes on. Too much wild riffage. Lacks some of the energy I was hoping to get from Maynard. There's no "I don't miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind" or "Before we piiiiiiiiiiiiiine away" moment for him here. Most tool albums have about 3 or 4 of those moments but the vocal attack is pretty well gelled into the music and doesn't really rock the boat. Its a shortcoming but one I can come to grips with. Musically and compositionally this thing is a fucking monster and a tasty as fuck one at that. Just the right amount of riff and time sig fuckery I was needing. Still not as jarring as "Schism" feels 18 years later. How the fuck was that the lead single? LOL Love the song but goddamn.

2. Lateralus - The Spiritual peak of the band for the most part. FI feels like a fitting sequel but without feeling rehashed at all. They both have the ethereal smoothness but combined with the raunchy attack. Not sure what else to say. Some monstrous classics on this bad boy. The Grudge. The Patient. Reflection. Lateralus. This is gargantuan. Not a fan of ending the music with Triad. Hurts this album for me. Faaip De Oiad is probably the greatest segue finish ever. EVER.

1. Ænima - There are about three tracks on this disc that I'm pretty much sick of hearing and two of them are segues. Given that fact, and the fact that every other actual song and segue are just about pure gold across the board, its got to go to first place.  Was the first album I heard all the way through. Contains "Eulogy."

 End of story. Or just the beginning.

 

How about y'all?

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2 minutes ago, fish said:

Doubting it since regular sales are only a few days away and there is no mention of fan club presale codes that I've sen through Ticketmatser. Plus doesn't the tool army generally do nothing for their regular tours? But I do know the Detroit gig has "Platinum Tickets" as an option meaning the best seats will be reserved for those looking to spend hundreds more than the people 5 rows behind them.

Website says tomorrow at 10am local

time is tool army presale via their store, just didn’t know if i could get in on it via the free tier or if I needed to pony up the $50 yearly fee.

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25 minutes ago, mcpherson123 said:

Ok. Ranking time

 

6. Opiate - Unfair to compare to a bunch of other full albums with it being an EP but its integral to the catalog. I pretty much only still care to hear the title track.

5. 10,000 Days - Plenty of strong stuff on here and a couple of tracks I could never live without but as a full album, the sequencing doesn't thrill me and the something about it still feels a little off to this day. Not shitting on it at all but something about it simply doesn't gel into the catalog like I thought it would. I think it might make all the difference in the world for me if "Intension" were placed earlier in the track list or was just shorter. I don't know. Rubs me the wrong way.

4. Undertow - The beginning of it all proper for me. There is only one song that I feel is weak but all the rest is really killer. Very raw compositionally and not overproduced. Killer aggression and production has the right amount of sludge.

3. Fear Inoculum - Such a surprise out of the gate. This album will probably rotate around the top three spots of this ranking as time goes on. Too much wild riffage. Lacks some of the energy I was hoping to get from Maynard. There's no "I don't miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind" or "Before we piiiiiiiiiiiiiine away" moment for him here. Most tool albums have about 3 or 4 of those moments but the vocal attack is pretty well gelled into the music and doesn't really rock the boat. Its a shortcoming but one I can come to grips with. Musically and compositionally this thing is a fucking monster and a tasty as fuck one at that. Just the right amount of riff and time sig fuckery I was needing. Still not as jarring as "Schism" feels 18 years later. How the fuck was that the lead single? LOL Love the song but goddamn.

2. Lateralus - The Spiritual peak of the band for the most part. FI feels like a fitting sequel but without feeling rehashed at all. They both have the ethereal smoothness but combined with the raunchy attack. Not sure what else to say. Some monstrous classics on this bad boy. The Grudge. The Patient. Reflection. Lateralus. This is gargantuan. Not a fan of ending the music with Triad. Hurts this album for me. Faaip De Oiad is probably the greatest segue finish ever. EVER.

1. Ænima - There are about three tracks on this disc that I'm pretty much sick of hearing and two of them are segues. Given that fact, and the fact that every other actual song and segue are just about pure gold across the board, its got to go to first place.  Was the first album I heard all the way through. Contains "Eulogy."

 End of story. Or just the beginning.

 

How about y'all?

I like your list a lot. Everything but 10,000 Days is gold to me so I have a really hard time ranking them. I’d probably flip flop Undertow for Fear Inoculum but over time I could easily see FE sneaking into my top 3, it’s that good. Undertow although raw sounding just has so many great tracks that I’ve loved for so many years now that I gotta have it in my top 3. Opiate is last only because of length. I wish I liked 10,000 Days more but besides a handful of tracks it just doesn’t grab my attention like the other albums.

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38 minutes ago, morfiend said:

I like your list a lot. Everything but 10,000 Days is gold to me so I have a really hard time ranking them. I’d probably flip flop Undertow for Fear Inoculum but over time I could easily see FE sneaking into my top 3, it’s that good. Undertow although raw sounding just has so many great tracks that I’ve loved for so many years now that I gotta have it in my top 3. Opiate is last only because of length. I wish I liked 10,000 Days more but besides a handful of tracks it just doesn’t grab my attention like the other albums.

Thanks. Glad you dig.  I get what you mean about 10K.  I'm certainly not complaining about the rawness of Undertow though. A lot of heavy bands fall into that trap of over polishing the mix. I think Lateralus still kept a good balance of raw attack and polish.  

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2 hours ago, dantheriver said:

Website says tomorrow at 10am local

time is tool army presale via their store, just didn’t know if i could get in on it via the free tier or if I needed to pony up the $50 yearly fee.

That's cool.  I remember people complaining about how much they paid and then not getting a chance at presales in the past. Still sucks that live nation/ tm are holding back some of the beast seats just so they can scalp them themselves. 

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6 hours ago, mcpherson123 said:

Ok. Ranking time

 

How about y'all?

 

FI has already topped Opiate and Undertow IMO. FI is fighting for second place. Lateralus being number one for obvious reasons. Second is Ænima. FI is a strong third right now. Very consistent album IMO. Strong from the get go. The riffing and rhythms that Adam and Justin conjured up are fantastic! And Danny is a fuckin polyrhythmic God! 10k is in 4th and Undertow is 5th 😔 and Opiate, like you said deserves to be counted albeit in last place. But I love them all. It's just not fair!

I can't stress this enough, but Adam really deserves aoty! This is a guitar first album, then drum. It's filled to the gills with riff after riff. And Danny! Ugh I'm repeating myself...

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I think that’s why I may be enjoying this one as much as I am.  I agree that it’s riffs after riffs and not at all in an excessively ambitious way.  It’s late, big posts are scary, and I’m too “new” a Tool fan to have my opinion taken seriously, but I’ll weigh in on a pleb’s ranking of the albums thus far, sometime tomorrow.  For now I’ll say that I’m super puzzled reading comments about the album feeling bloated, pointless, or downright boring.  Opinions and all, sure.  But yowza.

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