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58 minutes ago, daegor said:

 

I'm unsure of whether Hillary or Trump would be worse.  I feel like Trump might be offensive enough to start a war.  And I think Hillary is just a puppet, so you'll end up in a 'peace-keeping' war.

 

Trump is an ignorant authoritarian who runs his mouth. He's made some very questionable (albeit not outright malicious) comments, but he also hasn't endorsed every single war that has occurred in our lifetimes and he didn't play an active role in the destruction of Libya. Hillary Clinton has supported war. She's profited from the murder of innocent lives. She wants to keep fighting a civil war we have no reason being involved with and it will only add more fuel to the back lash (ISIS). Trump not knowing that a taco bowl isn't an authentic Mexican dish doesn't bother me as much as the heartless life ending endeavors that happen at the hands of people like Hillary and Obama.

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2 hours ago, daegor said:

  I love the socialist idea, it's worked in a lot of countries,

Sure,

malnourishment, genocide, project housing for everyone who isn't a politician, mandatory military service, dirt roads, sweatshops, state media, censorship, etc...

yeah, I guess that "works". 

@Shitty Rambo Your problem is that you just understand how the world works. Because you're ignorant and stuff. 

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11 hours ago, daegor said:

There is a huge difference between stereotypes and separation.

 

Separation, differering ideas, fresh perspectives, these are all good.  Like you said, just don't be a dick.

 

Stereotypes cheapen the separation, they are dismissive.  The whole point of 'separation' is to promote change and growth and learning. Stereotyping rejects and dismisses any value from the group you're labelling.

 

Learn from those you disagree with.

Liberal talks down to minority with pious righteous talk about stereotypes. Confirms stereotype about liberals. 

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12 minutes ago, heyimdb said:

Sure,

malnourishment, genocide, project housing for everyone who isn't a politician, mandatory military service, dirt roads, sweatshops, state media, censorship, etc...

yeah, I guess that "works". 

@Shitty Rambo Your problem is that you just understand how the world works. Because you're ignorant and stuff. 

I was having some beers my cousin Phillip on Sunday night, he's a veteran of the Iraq War(s). We were talking about all this nonsense. Nothing makes him feel worse than the fact the he knows he took people's lives and watched his brothers die next to him for profit. His stories are horrific. He came on our podcast a couple years ago and told a few stories, I'll find the link and send it to you. He's supposed to do it again soon.

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14 minutes ago, heyimdb said:

Sure,

malnourishment, genocide, project housing for everyone who isn't a politician, mandatory military service, dirt roads, sweatshops, state media, censorship, etc...

yeah, I guess that "works". 

Obviously there are also examples where it doesn't work, as there are with anything.  Just because I fail a math test doesn't mean that math is wrong.

 

And when you start throwing things like genocide alongside socialism you make it pretty clear you have no idea what you're talking about.

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5 minutes ago, Shitty Rambo said:

I was having some beers my cousin Phillip on Sunday night, he's a veyeran of the Iraq War(s). We were talking about all this nonsense. Nothing makes him feel worse than the fact the he knows he took people's lives and watched his brothers die next to him for profit. His stories are horrific. He came on our podcast a couple years ago and told a few stories, I'll find the link and send it to you. He's supposed to do it again soon.

Oh yeah. Out of every one of my friends, I'm the only one who hasn't gone overseas or enlisted. May enlist soon since the job opportunities are now done for me in Iowa. But I'll probably be a medic. My best friend did three tours as an infantryman and my friend just came back not too long ago after serving as an airborne ranger. It is not a good thing to be over there. Downright bullshit. 

My grandfathers were veterans of the Second World War, their fathers were veterans of the First World War. My grandfather and his brother were the only one who made it back out of his family. His brother was heavily decorated from the European theatre. Never found out about it until he passed away. 

I would love to hear your podcast. 

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5 minutes ago, daegor said:

Obviously there are also examples where it doesn't work, as there are with anything.  Just because I fail a math test doesn't mean that math is wrong.

 

And when you start throwing things like genocide alongside socialism you make it pretty clear you have no idea what you're talking about.

Europe, China, Russia, Southeast Asia, North Korea...

Im running out of land mass. 

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Maybe I'm a little alone on this, but it doesn't bother me that Hillary Clinton is unscrupulous and probably even a liar.  Maybe it would be good to have a president that is deceitful and tactful.  Maybe she could trick politicians into voting for her stuff.  I don't know, but I do know that the president's job isn't to be liked as a person.  And I think that part of the reason some of President Obama's efforts have fallen short has been because he wasn't a total dick when dealing with the other parties.  Clinton seems like she'd be a dick and get shit done.

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2 minutes ago, nancy_raygun said:

Maybe I'm a little alone on this, but it doesn't bother me that Hillary Clinton is unscrupulous and probably even a liar.  Maybe it would be good to have a president that is deceitful and tactful.  Maybe she could trick politicians into voting for her stuff.  I don't know, but I do know that the president's job isn't to be liked as a person.  And I think that part of the reason some of President Obama's efforts have fallen short has been because he wasn't a total dick when dealing with the other parties.  Clinton seems like she'd be a dick and get shit done.

Should look up the definition of a fascist and their practices. Hell, that may not bother you either. 

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14 minutes ago, heyimdb said:

Europe, China, Russia, Southeast Asia, North Korea...

Im running out of land mass. 

Yeah, no.

Places like North Korea have a Totalitarian government.

 

Socialism is a very broad term, to be more specific I'm referring to social democracy or social capitalism:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model

These concepts, in particular, largely align with Sander's platform, hence bringing it in to the discussion at all.  I hope you don't think that Sanders and Kim Jong Il have any similarities in their governing policies.

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1 hour ago, daegor said:

 

I'm unsure of whether Hillary or Trump would be worse.  I feel like Trump might be offensive enough to start a war.  And I think Hillary is just a puppet, so you'll end up in a 'peace-keeping' war.

i keep seeing people say stuff like this. that they "feel like" TRUMP could or would start a war. with who exactly? mexico? give me a break. really think about it. there are a finite number of countries and leaders out there who even have the military capacity to start a war with us. put forward a decent rational argument. china, russia, and even north korea (countries we are currently at odds with) have actually welcomed TRUMP as the next POTUS.

also, yes Crooked Hillary is a puppet. a dangerous war hawk puppet who has taken millions from saudi arabia, qatar, kuwait, yemen and others in exchange for weapons deals with US defense contractors, directly fueling tension and war in the middle east. her track record as secretary of state has made the world a worse place due to her failed strategy and meddling in places like haiti, honduras, afghanistan, libya, syria, iran, and the ukraine. the state department was crooked during her tenure and continues to be crooked. i'm not sure what world others are living in if they think our current status-quo is actually keeping the peace. our military spending is still through the roof. we drone bomb and run covert operations all over the globe as a favor to corporate and international donors and this would continue under her watch if given the chance.

it blows my mind that people somehow think Crooked Hillary is a well experienced, honest, upstanding politician with the best interests of US citizens in mind. SAD!

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2 hours ago, Bladewillisisdead said:

Not to mention trans rights. This bathroom bullshit is the most ridiculous and hateful garbage, but it's turned into a big deal and I'm glad Obama stepped up.

are you being sarcastic, or do you really think trans rights / bathroom usage is one of the bigger issues facing the nation? LGBT people in AMERICA have it better now than at any time in the history of the world.

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7 minutes ago, WAXXX said:

i keep seeing people say stuff like this. that they "feel like" TRUMP could or would start a war. with who exactly? mexico? give me a break. really think about it. there are a finite number of countries and leaders out there who even have the military capacity to start a war with us. put forward a decent rational argument. china, russia, and even north korea (countries we are currently at odds with) have actually welcomed TRUMP as the next POTUS.

also, yes Crooked Hillary is a puppet. a dangerous war hawk puppet who has taken millions from saudi arabia, qatar, kuwait, yemen and others in exchange for weapons deals with US defense contractors, directly fueling tension and war in the middle east. her track record as secretary of state has made the world a worse place due to her failed strategy and meddling in places like haiti, honduras, afghanistan, libya, syria, iran, and the ukraine. the state department was crooked during her tenure and continues to be crooked. i'm not sure what world others are living in if they think our current status-quo is actually keeping the peace. our military spending is still through the roof. we drone bomb and run covert operations all over the globe as a favor to corporate and international donors and this would continue under her watch if given the chance.

it blows my mind that people somehow think Crooked Hillary is a well experienced, honest, upstanding politician with the best interests of US citizens in mind. SAD!

Trump could start a war by offending another nation somehow, but I think you're right that he's probably less dangerous than Hillary.  I'm thinking that the most likely to offend will be any Muslim nation or North Korea (despite their current feelings).

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2 minutes ago, WAXXX said:

are you being sarcastic, or do you really think trans rights / bathroom usage is one of the bigger issues facing the nation? LGBT people in AMERICA have it better now than at any time in the history of the world.

History of the world feels like a bit of an overstatement.  Definitely in the history of the US.  But you could say that about a lot of groups and that doesn't mean everything's honkey dory.

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