WAXXX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, nancy_raygun said: History of the world feels like a bit of an overstatement. Definitely in the history of the US. But you could say that about a lot of groups and that doesn't mean everything's honkey dory. if you feel it's an overstatement, then tell me when in human existence it has been better for LGBT people than right now. things are pretty good for LGBT people. it's illegal to institutionally discriminate against them, they can vote, they can have sex with whoever they want, they can get married to whoever they want, they can have their own TV shows and generally have a pretty favorable reception from the public. many businesses already don't even really care which bathrooms trans people use. i've already been to a bunch of places (in texas no less) that have gender fluid bathrooms. heyimdb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_raygun Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, WAXXX said: if you feel it's an overstatement, then tell me when in human existence it has been better for LGBT people than right now. Ancient Greece Honestly, I don't know. If you're claiming to be the expert on the history of LGBTQ people, then I will defer to what you're saying. Because I'm not an expert, just felt like that was a pretty broad statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, WAXXX said: it's illegal to institutionally discriminate against them, they can vote, they can have sex with whoever they want, they can get married to whoever they want, they can have their own TV shows and generally have a pretty favorable reception from the public. many businesses already don't even really care which bathrooms trans people use. i've already been to a bunch of places (in texas no less) that have gender fluid bathrooms. Geeze, sounds like how everyone should be treated. They could already vote yeah? is this a new feature? and i have to disagree with this: Quote generally have a pretty favorable reception from the public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, abovetheearth said: Geeze, sounds like how everyone should be treated. They could already vote yeah? is this a new feature? it's almost like we have equal rights in the eyes of the law. the new feature is that votes can now be cast fabulously with pride. heyimdb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyimdb Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 39 minutes ago, daegor said: Yeah, no. Places like North Korea have a Totalitarian government. Socialism is a very broad term, to be more specific I'm referring to social democracy or social capitalism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model These concepts, in particular, largely align with Sander's platform, hence bringing it in to the discussion at all. I hope you don't think that Sanders and Kim Jong Il have any similarities in their governing policies. Yea they do. Economically it's a domino effect. WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, heyimdb said: Yea they do. Economically it's a domino effect. cantdance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, nancy_raygun said: Ancient Greece Honestly, I don't know. If you're claiming to be the expert on the history of LGBTQ people, then I will defer to what you're saying. Because I'm not an expert, just felt like that was a pretty broad statement. sadly i'm not the definitive expert on the history of LGBTQ people. if only bernie were elected and i could get free college for my doctorate in LGBTQ studies... heyimdb, TFP and aju2streets 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyimdb Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I had an argument with some trailer trash cow once about socialism. Then I had to explain what the USSR stood for. WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_raygun Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, WAXXX said: sadly i'm not the definitive expert on the history of LGBTQ people. if only bernie were elected and i could get free college for my doctorate in LGBTQ studies... That would be nice. I kind of regret not taking an LGBTQ studies course when I was in college, it probably would have been really eye opening and interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyimdb Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I identify myself as a god. So I demand legislation that allows me to elevate myself as such and piss and shit on your homes. Because I deserve my rights. But you don't. Come on, liberals don't care about gays until election time. What an opportune moment to make this a national issue. Cause Libertarians totally don't center their philosophy around the rights of the individual. Shitty Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, nancy_raygun said: That would be nice. I kind of regret not taking an LGBTQ studies course when I was in college, it probably would have been really eye opening and interesting. it's not too late. you can still enroll for a course in women's and gender studies at the university of missouri this fall: http://catalog.missouri.edu/courseofferings/wgst/ WGST 2030: Gender Perspectives: Colonial Histories, Post-Colonial Challenges WGST 2080: Perspectives on Sexual and Gender Diversity WGST 2250: Perspectives on Gender, Race, Class and Sexuality in the Americas WGST 2260: Perspectives on Mass Media: Constructions of Gender, Race and Sexuality WGST 2340: Perspectives on Gender and Popular Culture WGST 2500: Philosophy and Gender WGST 3080: Sexuality and Gender Theory WGST 3230: Themes in Sexual Politics WGST 3670: Themes in Gender and Globalization $267.20 per credit hour. courses range from 1-3 credits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyimdb Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, WAXXX said: it's not too late. you can still enroll for a course in women's and gender studies at the university of missouri this fall: http://catalog.missouri.edu/courseofferings/wgst/ WGST 2030: Gender Perspectives: Colonial Histories, Post-Colonial Challenges WGST 2080: Perspectives on Sexual and Gender Diversity WGST 2250: Perspectives on Gender, Race, Class and Sexuality in the Americas WGST 2260: Perspectives on Mass Media: Constructions of Gender, Race and Sexuality WGST 2340: Perspectives on Gender and Popular Culture WGST 2500: Philosophy and Gender WGST 3080: Sexuality and Gender Theory WGST 3230: Themes in Sexual Politics WGST 3670: Themes in Gender and Globalization $267.20 per credit hour. courses range from 1-3 credits. Hey, that's not free! That's not fair! WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 For a guy all about hardwork and personal responsibility you sure waste a lot of time on the internet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, KingTacoMunster, cantdance and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Then again, you're the kind of dipshit who probably uses Objectivism to rationalize wage theft or some shit like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and Bladewillisisdead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantdance Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 25 minutes ago, heyimdb said: some trailer trash cow. You're a poet. WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 This forum needs a "No Politics" policy. stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) Just now, vinyl addict said: This forum needs a "No Politics" policy. why? it's willful participation amongst consenting adults. Edited June 7, 2016 by WAXXX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 36 minutes ago, heyimdb said: I had an argument with some trailer trash cow once about socialism. Then I had to explain what the USSR stood for. 10 minutes ago, cantdance said: You're a poet. gorgeous. it's like ayn rand and robert frost had a love child and we are the lucky beneficiaries. heyimdb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 12 minutes ago, WAXXX said: why? it's willful participation amongst consenting adults. It is? There's no age verification to join this site. There's plenty of people on this forum whom aren't adults. stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, WAXXX said: if you feel it's an overstatement, then tell me when in human existence it has been better for LGBT people than right now. things are pretty good for LGBT people. it's illegal to institutionally discriminate against them, they can vote, they can have sex with whoever they want, they can get married to whoever they want, they can have their own TV shows and generally have a pretty favorable reception from the public. many businesses already don't even really care which bathrooms trans people use. i've already been to a bunch of places (in texas no less) that have gender fluid bathrooms. You know that the reason these bathroom laws are such a big deal is that they were overturning laws to protect LGBTQ people from discrimination in other areas too, right? stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, daegor said: Trump could start a war by offending another nation somehow, but I think you're right that he's probably less dangerous than Hillary. I'm thinking that the most likely to offend will be any Muslim nation or North Korea (despite their current feelings). You guys on the left are so scared of words. They're words! Violent acts against innocent people will always be a worse offense than saying something offensive. And not directed at you @daegor, but you guys who are still riding the Democracy train to no end sure do talk a lot of shit and name-call for people who need "safe spaces". "Lol, but like, I know exactly how well people's quality of life is in other countries even though I've never even seen the ocean and can't define what a 'corporation' is. [insert comparison of modern day USA to a failed empire that existed centuries ago here]. Lol, downvote!" WAXXX, Tommy, aju2streets and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 13 minutes ago, Bladewillisisdead said: You know that the reason these bathroom laws are such a big deal is that they were overturning laws to protect LGBTQ people from discrimination in other areas too, right? nope, i don't. when i hear bathroom usage discussion i usually tune out. where is it legal to discriminate against LGBTQ people? what laws are being overturned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 The majority of states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, WAXXX said: nope, i don't. when i hear bathroom usage discussion i usually tune out. where is it legal to discriminate against LGBTQ people? what laws are being overturned? The North Carolina bill that started the whole nonsense: "The bill also overturns an anti-LGBT discrimination ordinance that had been passed by Charlotte, North Carolina and prevents local governments in the state from enacting similar ordinances" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 18 minutes ago, vinyl addict said: It is? There's no age verification to join this site. There's plenty of people on this forum whom aren't adults. even if there are non-adults present, a willful, open exchange of political opinions and discourse is hardly deserving of a ban. i haven't dared look, but i'm sure things can get equally as crazy in a hot topic or brand new thread. Shitty Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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