Shelby Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 5 hours ago, conedust said: This is complete horseshit. Care to elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 What difference does this difference in age make? / I know how it ends. DecayToDeath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecayToDeath Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, Derek™ said: What difference does this difference in age make? / I know how it ends. Call 9-1-1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conedust Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Sunshine said: Care to elaborate? Nothing's been proven one way or the other. It's still a matter of two conflicting, unverifiable stories, and it's likely to remain so forever. I mean, what proof might conceivably emerge at this late date? A hidden camera video? Given all that, it's shitty to call her a "liar" like it's some god-given fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, conedust said: Nothing's been proven one way or the other. It's still a matter of two conflicting, unverifiable stories, and it's likely to remain so forever. I mean, what proof might conceivably emerge at this late date? A hidden camera video? Given all that, it's shitty to call her a "liar" like it's some god-given fact. There aren't two conflicting stories, Giras wife said she had physical evidence Larkin was lying and then Larkin withdrew. What more proof do you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conedust Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sunshine said: Larkin withdrew. What more proof do you need? She's never publicly withdrawn the accusation. And no party other than those involved (including, perhaps, Siobhan) has seen anything definitive. The rest of us know nothing but what we've heard second-hand, and it's irresponsible to pretend we've got some special line on the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 There's also the fact that other individuals within Larkin's musical scene have attested to her making similar false claims in the past. Gira has gone on record as saying that he partook in mutual physical engagement with her but actually stopped himself when he realized she wasn't all "there" in the moment and that something seemed wrong. Obviously those are his claims, but yeah... that whole thing wrapped up pretty quick once Gira's wife mentioned the damning evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, conedust said: She's never publicly withdrawn the accusation. And no party other than those involved (including, perhaps, Siobhan) has seen anything definitive. The rest of us know nothing but what we've heard second-hand, and it's irresponsible to pretend we've got some special line on the truth. We have brains though it's easy to put two and two together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conedust Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Sunshine said: We have brains though it's easy to put two and two together. If one has brains, one understands that "easy" conclusions based on circumstantial evidence are not to be trusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, conedust said: If one has brains, one understands that "easy" conclusions based on circumstantial evidence are not to be trusted. Are you trying to be stupid or is that just how you are? dantheriver and davepriz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conedust Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I don't pretend to know the truth when I don't. I don't treat secondhand accounts as facts. And I don't call people liars lightly. If that makes me stupid, then guilty as charged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, conedust said: I don't pretend to know the truth when I don't. I don't treat secondhand accounts as facts. And I don't call people liars lightly. If that makes me stupid, then guilty as charged. Thanks for the confirmation. You're calling plenty of people liars including Giras wife who sings a song about her own sexual assault on the record. Fuck that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Check the band's FB page. Jesse copped to it. Blames addiction to his action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapeebs Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Statement from Jesse Lacey: https://m.facebook.com/BrandNew/posts/10155923794753023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conedust Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Sunshine said: Thanks for the confirmation. You're calling plenty of people liars including Giras wife who sings a song about her own sexual assault on the record. Fuck that though. Again, complete horseshit. I'm simply saying that I don't know. Because I don't. I'm not involved. I not only have no reason to take sides, I don't even think I have a real right to. I mean, only an asshole jumps in drawing conclusions and pointing fingers based on incomplete personal stories received secondhand through social and other media. Especially when those stories have no bearing on the lives of people not involved. Here's the thing. I break information down into two basic categories: 1) Reality - That's what I experience myself, see with my own two eyes. 2) TV - That's all the shit I hear about secondhand, through social media, news, stories from friends & family, "word on the street", whatever. I believe very (VERY) little of the latter and only about half of the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, conedust said: Again, complete horseshit. I'm simply saying that I don't know. Because I don't. I'm not involved. I not only have no reason to take sides, I don't even think I have a real right to. I mean, only an asshole jumps in drawing conclusions and pointing fingers based on incomplete personal stories received secondhand through social and other media. Especially when those stories have no bearing on the lives of people not involved. Here's the thing. I break information down into two basic categories: 1) Reality - That's what I experience myself, see with my own two eyes. 2) TV - That's all the shit I hear about secondhand, through social media, news, stories from friends & family, "word on the street", whatever. I believe very (VERY) little of the latter and only about half of the former. You already let me know you were stupid I don't need more proof. H.R. Fucknstuff, tape and davepriz 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conedust Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sunshine said: You already let me know you were stupid I don't need more proof. Good enough! You'll carry on being an irresponsible asshole, and I'll carry on being stupid. SORTED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, conedust said: Good enough! You'll carry on being an irresponsible asshole, and I'll carry on being stupid. SORTED Haha assume whatever you want I don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.R. Fucknstuff Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 You actually get the pleasure of being both and @Sunshine is simply right. Shelby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Wow what a fucked response from Mr lacey. Never mentions how old any of them are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperg1ant Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sunshine said: Wow what a fucked response from Mr lacey. Never mentions how old any of them are. No mention of the very limited vinyl, dissapointed freezeflash, tokimedo and whoa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecayToDeath Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, dapeebs said: Statement from Jesse Lacey: https://m.facebook.com/BrandNew/posts/10155923794753023 He sure does seem to think it's subtle how he tiptoes around the issue with her being a minor. Now I just think he's a bigger scumbag, not only is he being creepy with minors but he claims to have cheated in most-if-not-all his past relationships, including the current one with his wife, whom he has children with. I don't want this to read out like I'm implying the cheating thing is worse, because it isn't but stacking it on top of the pedophile situation definitely isn't making his situation or reputation any better. Fuck him. Still gonna listen to Brand New, though. Good music. copelandkid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMatt767 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Jesus christ, that statement is arguably worse than just having stayed silent on the whole issue...why would he make no mention of the fact that the allegations are in relation to sexual abuse of a minor? Family Friendly Rap God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnystorm777 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 geeze, first the singer from lost prophets and now Jesse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Friendly Rap God Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Jesse Lacey is a pedophile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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