stl_ben Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 ...seriously? I got into comics as a kid in the early 90's and have a soft spot for a lot of books from then. But as an adult reading comics... the 90's is the absolute worst decade for comic books. This x100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_James_Champ Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Some of my favorite stuff came from what I read as a kid. I miss the old DC comics, I can't get into anything within the new 52. Marvel was always great to me growing up as well. I enjoy a lot of stuff today, don't get me wrong. It's a nostalgic thing more then anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethrock Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I've never really been into comics but some guys I used to work with years ago had me read a few of them. I liked Walking Dead but I can't remember how far into them I got. I also really liked DMZ. We eventually all got laid off so my comic reading ended then haha. One of the guys who had me reading these writes a comic called Rat Queens, not sure if anyone here has heard of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 ...seriously? I got into comics as a kid in the early 90's and have a soft spot for a lot of books from then. But as an adult reading comics... the 90's is the absolute worst decade for comic books. Are you meaning in terms of superhero stuff? Because plenty of series like Preacher, Sandman, et al ruled the 90s. I think while Superheros went the way of Liefield the alternative imprints of the majors kicked ass and pushed the medium into a respected art form where artists and writers could explore within the pages of comics and not be viewed as hacks by other forms of media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Can't tell what is going on in that sentance..... are you trying to say Liefield is good ?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Hell no. My point - Superhero comics of the 90's were definitely at their weakest despite some outliers. The medium of comics as a whole however was advanced tremendously through the boutique imprints (Vertigo, Wildstorm, etc). What happened in the 90's on the indie circuit and the boutique imprints had a huge impact on the revival of superhero titles in the aughts. So to say that comics in the 90s sucked is a bit of a misnomer. Some of the best books of all times came out in that period. While Liefeld and his toothpick ankeled hulks ruled/ruined Superhero comics for a decade the groundwork was being put down for a renaissance. (Note: As a kid I thought Liefeld era X-Force was cool. D'oh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 OK, then yes I agree. I just get worried when I see people who (now/still) like Liefeld's art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 You know - Liefeld might not have been so bad had his style not taken over the entire industry. It's hard to look back and judge his work on its own when so much that was derived from him was abominable. I should re-read the early X-Factor stuff and re-judge it. I just remember looking at Cable one day as a kid and thinking "Man, he is so cool" and then a couple years later being like "Why does he have 85 things strapped across his chest". Ok - Superhero comics of the 90s: What were everyone's favorites? I look back on Harbinger and still think it's brilliant. I still like Shadowman. There were a couple decent runs on X-Men & Spiderman. I have a soft spot for Spawn but admit I need to reread it. Stormwatch & The Authority were cool - especially the latter. It is amazing to think back and admit I enjoyed little DC/Marvel stuff. The best Batman story for me was No Man's Land and it didn't start until 1999. So there is that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtz Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Are you meaning in terms of superhero stuff? Because plenty of series like Preacher, Sandman, et al ruled the 90s. I think while Superheros went the way of Liefield the alternative imprints of the majors kicked ass and pushed the medium into a respected art form where artists and writers could explore within the pages of comics and not be viewed as hacks by other forms of media. Yes, I mean the mainstream Marvel and DC universes, and a lot of the Image and Valiant books in the 90's were garbage. You know - Liefeld might not have been so bad had his style not taken over the entire industry. It's hard to look back and judge his work on its own when so much that was derived from him was abominable. I should re-read the early X-Factor stuff and re-judge it. I just remember looking at Cable one day as a kid and thinking "Man, he is so cool" and then a couple years later being like "Why does he have 85 things strapped across his chest". Ok - Superhero comics of the 90s: What were everyone's favorites? I look back on Harbinger and still think it's brilliant. I still like Shadowman. There were a couple decent runs on X-Men & Spiderman. I have a soft spot for Spawn but admit I need to reread it. Stormwatch & The Authority were cool - especially the latter. It is amazing to think back and admit I enjoyed little DC/Marvel stuff. The best Batman story for me was No Man's Land and it didn't start until 1999. So there is that. Not to nitpick your list but, The Authority and No Man's Land are borderline 90's books. They both started in 1999 but went well into the 2000's. That would be like calling Sandman and 80's book. I will always love the Death and Return of Superman and Knightfall story lines since those are the ones that really got me hooked into reading comics and spending all my money on them on a weekly basis. I agree on Harbinger. Also Daredevil: The Man Without Fear miniseries stands out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtz Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I also remember really digging a lot of the DC Elseworlds annuals from '94. Haven't read any of them in a long time though so I don't know how well they hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_James_Champ Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I also remember really digging a lot of the DC Elseworlds annuals from '94. Haven't read any of them in a long time though so I don't know how well they hold up. Not so much. I used to love them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniegwilliams Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 There were some pretty great Batman collections throughout the 90s, Spawn was pretty kick-ass, and the X-Men had some pretty great arcs; so the 90s weren't such a terrible era for the industry. I was super involved in the X-Men/X-Force/etc crossover, "Fatal Attractions," that was epic for a kiddo, not to mention those awesome holograms on the covers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The Knightfall series was really good - nice call. I reread them last year and dug it quite a bit. They dragged the shit out of the Azreal aftermath and tossed the title back into the toiled (my opinion). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Not so much. I used to love them though. Elseworlds are some of my favorites. Batman: Vampire might be my favorite Batman story ever actually. I also really liked Gotham By Gaslight. (Both are pre-1994, I know. But still!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The issue with the 90s was the sudden sales explosion created so much demand that the publishers put out way too much total crap with glossy covers. Anyone remember the hype surrounding Turok #1? It was a terrible book but I bought it anyway. So yeah, there is good stuff in there but it's lost in the mass amounts of junk. There is so much talent working in the industry right now, I hope this is a permanent trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diabretic Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Im about 13 issues into Preacher and I'm digging it quite a bit. Gonna dive into Y: The Last Man next. Saga is awesome so I'm sure this one won't disappoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 About a 3rd of the way through the Preacher Vol. 2 graphic novel. So damn good. diabretic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniegwilliams Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Im about 13 issues into Preacher and I'm digging it quite a bit. Gonna dive into Y: The Last Man next. Saga is awesome so I'm sure this one won't disappoint. Just finished Y, you will not regret it. Looking to start Saga soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniegwilliams Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Some books I'm curious about. Has anyone here read any of these: - Postal - Nameless - Secret Identities Also stoked to read The Sculptor (long, artistic graphic novel) and Abigail and the Snowman (cutsie 4 issue thingy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Some books I'm curious about. Has anyone here read any of these: - Postal - Nameless - Secret Identities Also stoked to read The Sculptor (long, artistic graphic novel) and Abigail and the Snowman (cutsie 4 issue thingy) Postal has been good so far, but Matt Hawkins other 2 books are WAY better: Think Tank and The Tithe. Two issues into the Nameless...think Im about to drop it. Grants books are probably better for trade waiters, not enough info issue to issue. Have Secret Identities in my "To read" stack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Y is one of my favorites. I always recommend Planetary - can't express enough how brilliant it is. I've been following the Lemiere "Hawkeye" and it's only a couple issues in but I like the focus on origins. kurtz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtz Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I always recommend Planetary - can't express enough how brilliant it is. 100% backed! One of my favorites as well. jerseydave77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiatorhums Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Two issues into the Nameless...think Im about to drop it. Grants books are probably better for trade waiters, not enough info issue to issue. That's how I felt about Annihilator for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTDRONES Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 The last issue of Nameless was so over the top violent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiatorhums Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The last issue of Nameless was so over the top violent Interesting. I'm a few issues behind and that kind of renewed my interest. Anyone else excited for We Stand on Guard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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