bear801 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Are they actually talking about pressing Zwan? Not a Corgan fan these days but id buy that for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Yes. But for the past 10 years. Something will happen at some point, but don't hold your breath. Billy has lots of plans, but rarely sees things through. bear801 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Banned User] Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Still waiting for a non-bootleg Rotten Apples. Plarocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear801 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, timsimmons said: Yes. But for the past 10 years. Something will happen at some point, but don't hold your breath. Billy has lots of plans, but rarely sees things through. Hes always been so down on Zwan and how it ended that i figured there was no chance in hell. that record is tied to such a fun time period for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Nah, he has said multiple times he intends to reissue it with all the other shit they recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubb4 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 14 hours ago, highfives said: Another counter has been added and the “Explore the Ritual” site. https://www.smashingpumpkins.com Still trying to figure out puzzle #2, but answering the word jumble will get you a 20% off code good between 8/28 and 8/31... so you can guess something is popping up on the store after the single is released Friday. you mind sharing the answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubb4 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, bubb4 said: you mind sharing the answer? found it. it's: cyr the color of love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plarocks Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 hours ago, [Banned User] said: Still waiting for a non-bootleg Rotten Apples. WITH a white label “Judas 0” hidden inside! [Banned User], jrodan and bubb4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untiliwakeup Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Will the “spun ost” stuff be getting a release as well ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) He wants it out there, yes. But like I said, he WANTS a lot of stuff out there and has talked about dozens of releases over the years that haven't seen the light of day. He talked about archival live releases, maybe 5-6 years ago. It only looks like now one is getting done. Edited August 26, 2020 by timsimmons untiliwakeup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramer73 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 19 hours ago, [Banned User] said: Still waiting for a non-bootleg Rotten Apples. Billy has already said that was put out by the label, not him. Maybe the label doesn't like money. [Banned User] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 10 hours ago, kramer73 said: Billy has already said that was put out by the label, not him. Maybe the label doesn't like money. I dont know how much a greatest hits would bring in. Most pumpkins fans own the majority of albums those songs are on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I think you’d get the casual fans for sure. A hits wouldn’t sell like a Siamese or MCIS would, but people would buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, timsimmons said: I think you’d get the casual fans for sure. A hits wouldn’t sell like a Siamese or MCIS would, but people would buy it. I'd buy it and I already own their first 3 and newest. I think it was the first CD I had if theirs (I had tapes of MCIS and Gish) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I’d buy it for Untitled. And sometimes you just want to hear the hits. Hits albums are usually maligned by music nerds, but it’s a great way to see the scope of how great a band was (is?). Non music nerds tend to love hits/singles albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 On 8/26/2020 at 11:43 AM, Plarocks said: WITH a white label “Judas 0” hidden inside! that would make it worth it to me, since "set the ray to jerry" may be the best SP song ever written. bjorn and Plarocks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Don’t have Aeroplane Flies High? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achillesstand7 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I really like the 2 new songs. Definitely a lot more synth-y than anything he’s done recently. I’m excited to hear more about the new album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeCeCe Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, achillesstand7 said: I really like the 2 new songs. Definitely a lot more synth-y than anything he’s done recently. I’m excited to hear more about the new album. Loving them on 1st listen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear801 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 13 hours ago, timsimmons said: Don’t have Aeroplane Flies High? That was always my favorite. I like his b-sides so much better than his albums. i remember MTV News did a preview of that boxset and it immediately went on my Christmas list (i was 16 or 17). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeCeCe Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 hours ago, bear801 said: That was always my favorite. I like his b-sides so much better than his albums. i remember MTV News did a preview of that boxset and it immediately went on my Christmas list (i was 16 or 17). It's a great set, so many brilliant bsides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 16 hours ago, timsimmons said: Don’t have Aeroplane Flies High? i do have that and i definitely play the 1979 ep with 'set the ray to jerry' most. i just figure a cheaper version of something that has that song would give more people a chance to hear the best SP song ever. timsimmons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepperonigin Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I'm already liking these new singles way better than anything on Shiny Vol 1. Hope the album delivers overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 yeah, new songs are good and the person who said it has a TheFutureEmbrace feel was spot on. andynz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highfives Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Initial thoughts on the two singles: Overall, the production is a lot warmer and cohesive than Vol. 1. The vocals are still a little higher than I think everyone prefers with BC's voice, but it's sitting a little better in the mix than most of the SP V2 stuff. The Colour of Love is the stronger of the two for me, although the two songs remind me a little of Zero/God where they're kind of similar to a fault. It might be the synth lines and prominent female vocals. The bridge in TCOL, where everything drops and it comes back into that driving bass line and synth is perfect. Vocally and lyrically, TCOL is the stronger of the two. I dig the delivery BC's got going on. Overall, I think this one is a really great intro to what this record might be. The tease of Cyr had me anxious in a good way, but it's almost like everything heard in the teaser is everything the song has to offer. Kind of a one-trick pony. I dig the vibe but I almost feel like it should be the b-side to TCOL. There's some weird vocal phrasing, especially in that bridge. It kind of suffers from the newer lyrical approach Billy has had for a while where he's trying to sound really smart and uses uncommon wording. "TANGENTS VEX THE WHORL", "‘MIDST THE CHAFF, AS MEEK AND THOSE WEAK, AS SAND "... lines like that are just not that relatable, a spot where old SP really shined. Maybe all of this rolls up into a bigger story (obviously we're in some kind of big concept, whether that ends up being explained or not...) but as a song, that lyrical wordplay doesn't really do it for me on the surface. After these two, I think we're in for a solid record. Although I am hoping for some huge drums, crushing guitars, and some dream-pop metal or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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