castaway Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 http://www.ebay.com/itm/141002068522 Just won this bad boy for $1.04..... PUMPED So update, I paid and waited about 2 weeks and never got a shipping update. So I figure obviously the dude isn't going to give in and just send me the item that I won fair and square. I wouldn't have been mad if he had just refunded my payment immediately and explained he didn't want to sell it for that low, but instead he was just going to keep my $16 and not send it. I messaged him asking if he shipped it yet and he said "Sorry, pal. Not cool with selling that record for a buck." to which I responded "But you're cool with stealing $16 from me?" Then he said he would refund me in a bit, and asked for my paypal address. I sent it to him thinking he would look up the payment I sent and just hit "Issue Refund" but instead he sent me a separate payment of $16 for goods or services (which i ended up paying a dollar fee on). So I refund his "payment" right away thinking he was going to try to scam me and file a paypal dispute for me not shipping the $16 imaginary item he "bought" from me. Messaged him again and told him to refund the original payment or send the money as a gift instead. Am I being paranoid here? This turned out to be quite the annoyance. What else can I do in the situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celebdeath Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 He sounds useless. Yr not paranoid; you're just telling him how to do it properly. He should learn stuff n' things. mrrom92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Just open a case on ebay and show them what he said. You'll get your money back, what he did sounds exactly like what you're afraid he'll do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souljacker8888 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 ^^ this. I am for wiggle room and talking any issues out, but you are being WAY to cool with this fool. Not only should you be dinging him with negative feedback, but you should be alerting ebay so they can do whatever they do as well. Not that losing an 17 feedback account will wreck this guy, but there's a bit of principle to this as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranaspank Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Don't list something for a dollar if you're not cool with selling it for a dollar. turbobrando and chrisapple 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castaway Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Right, that's kinda my outlook on the whole thing. Put a reserve on it or raise the minimum bid if you're gonna be a baby about it. I've had plenty of instances where I've sold things on eBay for less than a fraction of what I expected, and I bit the bullet and sent it out anyway. I even ended up paying money out of pocket to ship somebody a hoodie once. Then of course when the tables are turned the guy refuses to ship it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Can someone explain the point of Reserves to me? I just wasted 30 minutes bidding on a record and ended up winning for $51 but it didn't meet the reserve and it turns out the reserve was $90. If he had started the bidding at 90 it would have been a lot easier to know that it wasn't even worth looking at the listing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castaway Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 As far as I can see it's pretty much the appeal of a $.99 auction, but with the security of a $90 auction. If you start the bidding at $.99 you're a lot more likely to attract potential buyers, watchers, etc. The downside is, your item might sell for $.99. If you start the bidding at $90, the downside is that you're likely to steer people away with the high starting price (even if they might have paid that much in the first place) Solution: put a reserve on it. Although these days when I open an auction and it says "Reserve not met" I'll still probably avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 As far as I can see it's pretty much the appeal of a $.99 auction, but with the security of a $90 auction. If you start the bidding at $.99 you're a lot more likely to attract potential buyers, watchers, etc. The downside is, your item might sell for $.99. If you start the bidding at $90, the downside is that you're likely to steer people away with the high starting price (even if they might have paid that much in the first place) Solution: put a reserve on it. Although these days when I open an auction and it says "Reserve not met" I'll still probably avoid it. The problem with that logic is that even if people come looking at your item it's not like you're making money on ads... ten people bid on an item and it ended at $51.00 your reserve of $90.00 is probably a little unrealistic. If I had known the reserve was $90 I never would have wasted my time looking at this item. Make it Buy-It-Now or start the bidding at $90 (and get 0 bids because thats ridiculous) but what good is a reserve? Is it for really popular items? I just don't see the merit of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castaway Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If I had known the reserve was $90 I never would have wasted my time looking at this item. That's exactly the point. The logic is that maybe over time you will realize that you want the item badly enough to bid $90 or even more on it, even though you might have initially been turned off by that price. I'm not saying that happens all the time, but it does happen. In the end it was the sellers problem too cause I'm pretty sure you have to pay extra to list your item with a reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 That's exactly the point. The logic is that maybe over time you will realize that you want the item badly enough to bid $90 or even more on it, even though you might have initially been turned off by that price. I'm not saying that happens all the time, but it does happen. In the end it was the sellers problem too cause I'm pretty sure you have to pay extra to list your item with a reserve. Eh, okay. Thanks for the info! I could see it working if the reserve was CLOSE to normal price. I mean I was highest bidder at 51 and saw I didn't meet reserve, so I tried to bid 60.10, thinking the reserve might be 60. So I suppose with a realistic reserve he could have made an extra ten bucks off of me. But with a reserve almost twice the normal selling price of an item... Nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokimedo Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 yeah, having a reserve costs $2 in fees. i put a reserve on my TSSF test because i didnt want to lose money on them, my reserves are literally the price i paid from the labels when i bought them. but i take the extra step and make it clear in the description what the reserve price is so anybody that is bidding knows how high theyd have to go. also, lets say the guy was ok with $51 for his record, he could second chance offer you it. thats good too when it comes to winning an auction that has a reserve but the reserve not being met, so i dont think its a COMPLETE waste of time for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 yeah, having a reserve costs $2 in fees. i put a reserve on my TSSF test because i didnt want to lose money on them, my reserves are literally the price i paid from the labels when i bought them. but i take the extra step and make it clear in the description what the reserve price is so anybody that is bidding knows how high theyd have to go. also, lets say the guy was ok with $51 for his record, he could second chance offer you it. thats good too when it comes to winning an auction that has a reserve but the reserve not being met, so i dont think its a COMPLETE waste of time for you. Well except I reached out to him and said "Hey man, just won your auction for $51 but it didn't meet your reserve. What was the reserve, maybe I can meet it, I'm very interested in this record!" to which he responded "$90." So, it was a waste of time, but maybe just because this seller was un-moving and un-interested in selling below his imagined price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idreamofpunk Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Was it that GID Poltergeist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Was it that GID Poltergeist? Blue Beyond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idreamofpunk Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Even better, imo. Love The Beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stongo Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I think I paid $20 for a color copy. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ghoul-Splatterthrash-vinyl-LP-/181174341569?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2a2ed50fc1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasma36 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 The only reason I'd put a reserve on an auction is if I was selling something rare that I wouldn't let go for cheap. Whenever I see "reserve not met" for common albums I just ignore them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjb2k1 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 that melvins van was bid up to like $100k right? and still didn't hit the reserve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Damn, forgot to check my watch list. This was a pretty good deal: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171074900307?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Looks like this dude is a new flipper that will soon be bitched about around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museummouth Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Damn, forgot to check my watch list. This was a pretty good deal: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171074900307?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Looks like this dude is a new flipper that will soon be bitched about around here. He's going to get screwed on some of that stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 He's going to get screwed on some of that stuff. Agreed. Idiotic flipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Yup, like the one I linked for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souljacker8888 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 so this is annoying as f(Ock. What can you do about shill bidding (that, well I admit the proof is not solid, though IMO pretty damn tight). This is a major ebay and discogs seller. digitalvinyl de. On ebay of their 5000+ items, only 88 are actual auctions. I put early bids on 4, and was the only bid on them for just under 2 days. With-in about 20 minutes tonight they ALL got out bid. Ok, sure, not unusual, I bid low to start to just to have it on my radar. The thing is of my four 3 were the same bidder, 1 one was a different bidder. Both with under 20 feedback 13 for one 8 for the other. A bit fishy, but still not so unusual...maybe. Checked all their other auctions. Of those with just one bid, almost all of them, with-in a half or so time, got new bids from around 5 or so accounts all under 20 feedback (one in the 40's). Now granted this could be coincidence, but to me it screams shill bidding seeing as how it was ALL their 1 bid items, all from a few accounts with low (winning/feedback) use. All with-in a very short time period. what do you think, I am being paranoid or does this not scream shill!? Think I should report to ebay for them to investigate? Would they even care or do anything? I wish I could also call them out at discogs, but of course no name and shame there (plus, obviously, though shady, its independent of discogs... Click on the only Auction tab to exclude their 5000 buy it nows and you can see how fishy their auctions are http://www.ebay.de/sch/vinyldigital_de/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686 it's frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I missed this a month ago. A guy had two up promo copies of this. One sold, the other didn't. I'd gladly take a promo copy over spending $25-60 for the official release:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lupe-Fiascos-LP-Food-and-Liquor-Promotional-Copy-Not-For-Sale-PR-302375-/171063863450?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&nma=true&si=Wv5PVJ5UiTDqxW4tLmeafl65nvs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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