SaviorSelf Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 The YG album is the best hip hop album of the year and unless Kanye puts something out I doubt that will change. In my top ten of the year, easily. Also Jason loves Doomtree, overrates them so highly. Differnt folks, different strokes I guess. Im not really a fan of commercialized aspect of hip hop and there are some people who could argue that YG isnt even hip hop, but a pop artist. Horrible rhymes over generic trap beats. Have you heard the Madlib/Freddie Gibbs joint Pinata? Black Milk's? The Roots? Pharoahe Monch? Apollo Brown? Atmosphere? Blueprint? I could keep going on but thats not the point. Also, too many people ride kanye for the sole fact he is kanye. You just said yourself you dont even have to hear something to declare it AOTY. Ghost_Parlour*, agaetisbyrjun and Shameful Dread 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 shhhhh those folks at ap have absolutely no sense of humor - they WILL shit talk you for this statement. parkinglot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 shhhhh those folks at ap have absolutely no sense of humor - they WILL shit talk you for this statement. GOOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Differnt folks, different strokes I guess. Im not really a fan of commercialized aspect of hip hop and there are some people who could argue that YG isnt even hip hop, but a pop artist. Horrible rhymes over generic trap beats. Have you heard the Madlib/Freddie Gibbs joint Pinata? Black Milk's? The Roots? Pharoahe Monch? Apollo Brown? Atmosphere? Blueprint? I could keep going on but thats not the point. Also, too many people ride kanye for the sole fact he is kanye. You just said yourself you dont even have to hear something to declare it AOTY. I think you misunderstood him. He said YG is likely album of the year, but that Ye could challenge that with a 2014 release because, well he's got a pretty solid history of delivering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorSelf Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I think you misunderstood him. He said YG is likely album of the year, but that Ye could challenge that with a 2014 release because, well he's got a pretty solid history of delivering. I dont think I misunderstood. He clearly said it is the best hip hop album of the year. Kanye is definitely consistent, minus Yeezus, but thats my opinion. I wouldnt put too much stock into his next release until I heard something from it, much like any other artist. Im not trying to make this a music taste pissing contest, all I did was announce my gripe with a site I used to be fond of, thats all. CWhit pretty much backed up my opinion with his comments anyways. Ghost_Parlour* and Shameful Dread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I dont think I misunderstood. He clearly said it is the best hip hop album of the year. Kanye is definitely consistent, minus Yeezus, but thats my opinion. I wouldnt put too much stock into his next release until I heard something from it, much like any other artist. Im not trying to make this a music taste pissing contest, all I did was announce my gripe with a site I used to be fond of, thats all. CWhit pretty much backed up my opinion with his comments anyways. Yeezus is either my favorite or second favorite of his hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noalarmplanet Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 This thread is great. I wish Scott could comment, but he may not wanna start shit, besides we all agree that Jason Tate is wrong, I think the worse sin, though is that he can't write. "Last night lead to a mini-essay about vinyl records, prices, economics, and a lesson that I can still piss people off." Omg. True punk 4 lyfe you! You've still got the edge sir! 1,000 scene points for you. It really all comes off like he is grasping for relevance. With all that being said I hope the vinyl price bubble bursts. eskimosnow27, onlettingjoe, ratbrain and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorSelf Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Yeezus is either my favorite or second favorite of his hahaha I respect that. What I really liked about that album was the lyrical content. He might be the only super famous artist who has stepped up and called out the NDAA, but whats sad is I bet half the people who heard that album dont even know what he was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whose_thare Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Remember when Dan Hunter of PlayRadioPlay! got banned because he called Tate an idiot for arguing something stupid about Radiohead? I liked Yeezus. Banalog Rebellion. Duff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 This thread and the responses on both sides (not to mention the high-and-mighty snobbery) definitely delivers. Thanks all! turnstiles and THE_James_Champ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 guy prolly doesnt even have a tat. P0SER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Remember when Dan Hunter of PlayRadioPlay! got banned because he called Tate an idiot for arguing something stupid about Radiohead? I liked Yeezus. Banalog Rebellion. I used that joke so much when it first happened. Good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I think the worse sin, though is that he can't write. knifeparty, BFB, eskimosnow27 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I guess I personally feel like maximizing profit - something Tate alludes to a few times in both posts - is a motive more in line with a publicly traded company whose sole concern is the bottom line. In the "scene" of underground music (whatever the fuck that means post-internet), however, people have always trumped money. I know countless articles have been written on this subject - how street cred doesn't pay a mortgage, the concept of selling out is stupid, "punk is totally irrelevant", etc. I myself have long been reticent to leave the stability of a dead end job for more fulfilling creative endeavors just for the fact that I need money to live, so I empathize with that struggle. I do still believe, though, that if you're playing in a rock band in 2014 and you're not satisfied with coming out of a gig with enough to get you home and an affirmation that people like what you're doing, maybe you should look into the tech sector. I also don't appreciate the condescending tone of "well, you don't want to pay for music, but you'll blow a bunch of money on bullshit". I don't go out to eat. I don't smoke. I don't drink regularly. I'm not a $4 coffee person. Roughly 90% of my expendable income is spent in patronage of the arts. I'm sure that chicken wing person exists, but some of us are just bummed that $50 doesn't go half as far at the record store as it did 5 years ago, and the only people getting richer from it are the labels who have never been afraid to kill the goose in pursuit of its golden eggs, along with a few opportunists who 15 years ago would've been in the collectible stuffed animal game. I feel pretty fortunate in that so far, none of the stuff with bonkers ($30+) pricing has been anything I'm interested in, but sooner or later there's going to be something I want that ends up being an SRC exclusive on vanilla fudge swirl, and I'll be angrily shaking my fist at all you dummies who long ago decided that 45 minutes of high school nostalgia was worth $30 a hit. kurtz, BFB, McCandless and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 but sooner or later there's going to be something I want that ends up being an SRC exclusive on vanilla fudge swirl, and I'll be angrily shaking my fist at all you dummies who long ago decided that 45 minutes of high school nostalgia was worth $30 a hit. I know it's still early on in the day, but this is the best thing I've read so far. nothnks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejesseb Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 My biggest problem with the rising prices is that I think it is creating a bubble that is going to bust and I really don't want to see that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whose_thare Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I honestly think the price gouging will end up hurting this hobby. I've had reservations about the recent prices of records and it really makes me question why I'm blowing so much money on something that I honestly don't need and will probably have to get rid of. Good thing about records is that they usually retain a lot of their value. But it really makes me want to leave this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Well guys we did it. He wrote a second blog because of us. Apparently this thread only had one post contributing to the discussion. http://chorus.fm/post/89945992118/well-that-escalated-quickly I don't think he realizes that the reason we're all just calling him a buttface and not having an "actual discussion" about it is because this shit has been talked about ad naseum around here and we'd rather fuck around than talk about money. It's also nice to see that he still remembers a little bit from that Econ 101 class that he took back in college. parkinglot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 THE HOBBY!!! rooks, THE_James_Champ and Duff 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 THE HOBBY!!! THE BUBBLE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hecollec+or Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 This thread and the responses on both sides (not to mention the high-and-mighty snobbery) definitely delivers. Thanks all! More T Swift please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 VC & AP are being all like... 3arl, eskimosnow27, marc32137 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hecollec+or Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 YES! :wub: :wub: :wub: An error occurred You have posted a message with more emoticons than this community allows. Please reduce the number of emoticons you've added to the message. Oops, I'll just go with 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Jake Jenkinshttps://twitter.com/jakej654 Online User Info. VC doesn't seem to think there was only one post worth responding to. Honestly don't think I've ever seen a less self aware community Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 They're almost making me want to not troll our own idiots, almost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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