noalarmplanet Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 It just amazes me that with so much proof I still lost. He claims he's going to pay me back. email the ceo. someone will fix it for you guy sucks. I don't want to see you lose money from a douche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayCauseDeath Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I am going to add him on Facebook and talk massive shit to him. This guy deserves to have no where to hide from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cemeterytapes Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Welp. I lost. I'm curious how something like that could even happen. Do they tell you in any capacity what the logic was by which that decision was made? I don't know anything about Paypal's claim system, but like, that's some fucked up shit right there on THEIR end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I'm curious how something like that could even happen. Do they tell you in any capacity what the logic was by which that decision was made? I don't know anything about Paypal's claim system, but like, that's some fucked up shit right there on THEIR end. ive requested an explanation. its insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Wow. I've never heard of anyone losing with considerable evidence. I'm sorry that you're the first and going through this. Whoever was in touch with his Dad should contact him to be sure he knows that this loser is still scamming people. Terrible stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinji Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I mean, technically we lost our cases as well, but he sent a lot of our records back thankfully. I provided them with sooo much information, screenshots, actual photos of the record and the record with the shipping label on it, but still lost. They said "we can't cover you on anything sold through a third party site then sent to you as a gift." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxsilence Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The Paypal part doesn't surprise me, they never seem to have any logic. I sold a TV once on ebay and the buyer disputed the transaction saying item not as described and uploaded a tracking number to Paypal as proof he returned the item. But instead he sent a flat envelope with tracking info to me, and inside it was a piece of notebook paper with a handwritten "lol". I took photos of everything, and supplied documentation to Paypal stating there's no way a < 1lb package could be the TV I sent, and provided tracking information for the package I originally sent detailing the dimensions and evidence the weight was over 50lbs. Not to mention that at the time, USPS wouldn't ship anything over that weight and that size. It was physically impossible for him to return the same package I sent to him just solely comparing tracking information. That evidence along with pictures of his envelope and letter were all supplied to Paypal, and even explained on the phone to a representative, and I still lost the case. Never sold anything on ebay since. jerseydave77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hecollec+or Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The Paypal part doesn't surprise me, they never seem to have any logic. I sold a TV once on ebay and the buyer disputed the transaction saying item not as described and uploaded a tracking number to Paypal as proof he returned the item. But instead he sent a flat envelope with tracking info to me, and inside it was a piece of notebook paper with a handwritten "lol". I took photos of everything, and supplied documentation to Paypal stating there's no way a < 1lb package could be the TV I sent, and provided tracking information for the package I originally sent detailing the dimensions and evidence the weight was over 50lbs. Not to mention that at the time, USPS wouldn't ship anything over that weight and that size. It was physically impossible for him to return the same package I sent to him just solely comparing tracking information. That evidence along with pictures of his envelope and letter were all supplied to Paypal, and even explained on the phone to a representative, and I still lost the case. Never sold anything on ebay since. WTF. You should send pizzas & taxis to his house for life. cemeterytapes and mssskat184 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The Paypal part doesn't surprise me, they never seem to have any logic. I sold a TV once on ebay and the buyer disputed the transaction saying item not as described and uploaded a tracking number to Paypal as proof he returned the item. But instead he sent a flat envelope with tracking info to me, and inside it was a piece of notebook paper with a handwritten "lol". I took photos of everything, and supplied documentation to Paypal stating there's no way a < 1lb package could be the TV I sent, and provided tracking information for the package I originally sent detailing the dimensions and evidence the weight was over 50lbs. Not to mention that at the time, USPS wouldn't ship anything over that weight and that size. It was physically impossible for him to return the same package I sent to him just solely comparing tracking information. That evidence along with pictures of his envelope and letter were all supplied to Paypal, and even explained on the phone to a representative, and I still lost the case. Never sold anything on ebay since. It never ceases to amaze me the lengths some of these wankers will go to and not realising what they are doing is simple theft, nothing more and nothing less. In your situation a phone call to the local Sheriff would be where I would be going. Many years ago before ebay did the siding with the buyer no matter what stance and Paypal was a big thing I bought an expensive model car from a guy in the US and he just took my money and had the attitude of well you're in the UK, I can't be arsed to send it and I'm gonna keep your money. I had his address so I rang the local Sheriff and gave the poor guy who answered all the details even though he struggled with my accent and hadn't a clue what I was talking about a squad car made a visit to the guys house and my model promptly arrived in the post a couple of weeks later. Might have been because it was a small town but it was effective never the less. The moral here is that how ever you dress it up it's theft and that's a criminal offence in every country I've been to. ajhall04 and kjkenney 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjkenney Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 It never ceases to amaze me the lengths some of these wankers will go to and not realising what they are doing is simple theft, nothing more and nothing less. In your situation a phone call to the local Sheriff would be where I would be going. Many years ago before ebay did the siding with the buyer no matter what stance and Paypal was a big thing I bought an expensive model car from a guy in the US and he just took my money and had the attitude of well you're in the UK, I can't be arsed to send it and I'm gonna keep your money. I had his address so I rang the local Sheriff and gave the poor guy who answered all the details even though he struggled with my accent and hadn't a clue what I was talking about a squad car made a visit to the guys house and my model promptly arrived in the post a couple of weeks later. Might have been because it was a small town but it was effective never the less. The moral here is that how ever you dress it up it's theft and that's a criminal offence in every country I've been to. This is fantastic! Kudos to you sir that's awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Is the issue that the payment was sent as a gift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxsilence Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 It never ceases to amaze me the lengths some of these wankers will go to and not realising what they are doing is simple theft, nothing more and nothing less. In your situation a phone call to the local Sheriff would be where I would be going. Many years ago before ebay did the siding with the buyer no matter what stance and Paypal was a big thing I bought an expensive model car from a guy in the US and he just took my money and had the attitude of well you're in the UK, I can't be arsed to send it and I'm gonna keep your money. I had his address so I rang the local Sheriff and gave the poor guy who answered all the details even though he struggled with my accent and hadn't a clue what I was talking about a squad car made a visit to the guys house and my model promptly arrived in the post a couple of weeks later. Might have been because it was a small town but it was effective never the less. The moral here is that how ever you dress it up it's theft and that's a criminal offence in every country I've been to. Yeah, I wish I would have thought to ring the local sheriff, he was in a small town in Virginia too. But this was probably 8 years ago and I was a much younger, dumber version of myself back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappingtheyears Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Is the issue that the payment was sent as a gift? Yup, no seller protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klefki Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Ol boy hit me with a chargeback today for a record I sold him in January. Anybody who has any contact info let me know. I've got address and e-mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drds89 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Ol boy hit me with a chargeback today for a record I sold him in January. Anybody who has any contact info let me know. I've got address and e-mail. My turn now, too 3 months later. Anyone can PM his phone number, I'd appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 damn guys. what a bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drds89 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Chris responded to my email, asked if he could send send Western Union. Anyone receive funds via Western Union vs. records back? Paypal negative balance for the first time in 14 years is fun, just got off the phone with them - since through CC - they are 'trying' with the evidence given to reclaim the funds, but I see how that turned out for the rest of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjm23 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Chris responded to my email, asked if he could send send Western Union. Anyone receive funds via Western Union vs. records back? Paypal negative balance for the first time in 14 years is fun, just got off the phone with them - since through CC - they are 'trying' with the evidence given to reclaim the funds, but I see how that turned out for the rest of you He ended up paying me back through Western Union without any issues. I know it might sound sketchy but it worked fine for me. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobert612 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I was also paid back through Western Union without any issues...It took some back and forth with him but I got my money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drds89 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Thanks for the responses. We had done a lot of conversing and some deals before all of this went down. Shame, but glad to see he is making it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjm23 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Thanks for the responses. We had done a lot of conversing and some deals before all of this went down. Shame, but glad to see he is making it right. I genuinely think he realizes what a huge mistake he made doing the chargebacks and is trying to fix the situations. As shitty as this whole thing is/was at least he is trying to make things right. Couldn't say that about a lot of people these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 He hasn't sent me my refund yet Don. From when I responded in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diabretic Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Wow. He just issued a chargeback for some records I sold him on January 10th. I thought I was safe but clearly I was naive. I no longer have proof of shipping so unless paypal takes all the evidence I sent them as proof I am SOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinaski Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hello there, same here, sent him a record in january, got an email from paypal this morning...Please, can someone send me all informations I wouldn't get yet about this guy?Would be really appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipsterasfolk Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 He must have blown all his money on that Washington Capitals game earlier in the month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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