Okami Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I still like five songs. And I think it is better than Good Nature. I would tell everyone listen to the record a few times through prior to judgement. And no it isn’t another Peripheral Vision but I am ok with that. erasedtapes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadDonut Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Not in love with it after first listen but it's better than their previous. Still no PV obviously. It's just not much to be excited about. Pretty forgettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erasedtapes Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, holyvacantsholyhell said: Shhhh you’ll offend sunshine and he’ll think you’re a pleb. It doesn’t matter that this album is hot garbage at all. I just think it's hilarious that we have a bunch of adults bickering over a band. The problem isn't that this album is bad on its own merit. The problem is, like deafening alluded to, whenever people talk about Turnover, they're talking about PV. Comparing GN and Altogether to PV really hurts them as independent albums. Like, yeah, GN sucks in comparison to PV, but I like quite a few of the songs because I take them as they are. Same with Altogether. If you don't like Altogether on its own, that's fine, not your thing. But not liking something doesn't mean it's bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyEnemy Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Pretty sure I said this before, but it’s really funny how bent out of shape y’all are getting about a band that changes their sound on every album they’ve released. Now they’re ripping off Captured Tracks band from 2010 that we’re ripping off C86/Flying Nun bands. Haha erasedtapes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diabretic Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Yep. They lost me with their last one and likely won't get me back. I'm officially "I like their old stuff" status. holyvacantsholyhell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyvacantsholyhell Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, erasedtapes said: I just think it's hilarious that we have a bunch of adults bickering over a band. The problem isn't that this album is bad on its own merit. The problem is, like deafening alluded to, whenever people talk about Turnover, they're talking about PV. Comparing GN and Altogether to PV really hurts them as independent albums. Like, yeah, GN sucks in comparison to PV, but I like quite a few of the songs because I take them as they are. Same with Altogether. If you don't like Altogether on its own, that's fine, not your thing. But not liking something doesn't mean it's bad. I agree with what you’re saying but I can’t help but at least judge it in the context of their body of work. I don’t like it cause it isn’t PV, I just don’t like it, unfortunately. also you might note people were just kinda sounding off with their opinions till sunshine decided he had to climb up into his ivory tower and start hitting his keyboard with his pecker. I even said I normally pass by his shit but I’m cranky 🤷♂️ Edited November 1, 2019 by holyvacantsholyhell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 😂 you're literally fighting with yourself and making it seem like I'm partaking. Stop. dantheriver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deafening Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 30 minutes ago, holyvacantsholyhell said: I don’t like it cause it isn’t PV, I just don’t like it, unfortunately. Exactly. People assuming you only dislike these albums just because they are not Peripheral Vision is a lazy argument. It is possible for an album to lack any depth, be forgettable, and hold no lasting value to a person. This isn't new, and Turnover didn't invent the boring album, they just perfected it (ohhhhhhhhhhh!) holyvacantsholyhell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drds89 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, deafening said: Exactly. People assuming you only dislike these albums just because they are not Peripheral Vision is a lazy argument. It is possible for an album to lack any depth, be forgettable, and hold no lasting value to a person. This isn't new, and Turnover didn't invent the boring album, they just perfected it (ohhhhhhhhhhh!) "Words of wisdom, Lloyd. Words. Of. Wisdom." deafening and holyvacantsholyhell 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erasedtapes Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, deafening said: Exactly. People assuming you only dislike these albums just because they are not Peripheral Vision is a lazy argument. It is possible for an album to lack any depth, be forgettable, and hold no lasting value to a person. This isn't new, and Turnover didn't invent the boring album, they just perfected it (ohhhhhhhhhhh!) You can @ me next time, man. It's not a lazy argument––what I said holds true for the majority of people criticizing Turnover's new stuff. Notice how my response literally says "if you don't like the new stuff on its own, that's fine." But you can't blame me for being fucking sick of the majority of people whining that it's not PV when that's not the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyvacantsholyhell Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, drds89 said: "Words of wisdom, Lloyd. Words. Of. Wisdom." Damn I just watched this last night cause of course I did drds89 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deafening Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, erasedtapes said: You can @ me next time, man. My response was directed at no one specifically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWindBlower Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Record is good. I enjoy it. Thanks for reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erasedtapes Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, deafening said: My response was directed at no one specifically. Fair enough. But I still don't think it's a lazy argument. Then again, these forums aren't exactly home to the most renowned philosophers. deafening 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I think Sending Me Right Back is my favorite track after a couple listens. Was not expecting such an earworm of a song to form after the bongo intro haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejesseb Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I like this album for background listening. Not sure how much I will actively listen to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit Level Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 How is "because it's not PV" a lazy argument? It's a perfectly reasonable and valid argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deafening Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 58 minutes ago, Spirit Level said: How is "because it's not PV" a lazy argument? It's a perfectly reasonable and valid argument It's an easy argument to assume that people don't like Good Nature or Altogether because they are not Peripheral Vision. It just seems like a lazy way to brush off someone's negative opinion of the album(s) when that may not be the case at all. Good Nature and Altogether, on their own, as separate entities, fall flat to me, but I do get why people like them. I do think Altogether has a better chance of growing potential though, and I liked the jazzy elements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit Level Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 hours ago, deafening said: It's an easy argument to assume that people don't like Good Nature or Altogether because they are not Peripheral Vision. It just seems like a lazy way to brush off someone's negative opinion of the album(s) when that may not be the case at all. Good Nature and Altogether, on their own, as separate entities, fall flat to me, but I do get why people like them. I do think Altogether has a better chance of growing potential though, and I liked the jazzy elements. Oh, I was saying that "It's not PV" is a perfectly reasonable argument for not liking altogether. All good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shelby Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Spirit Level said: Oh, I was saying that "It's not PV" is a perfectly reasonable argument for not liking altogether. All good It's valid sure, but not reasonable by definition. Let's take a look at the argument from a different angle and see if you agree: Sunshine: Hey Spirit Level, what do you think of the new Turnover record? Spirit Level: Is it Peripheral Vision? If not then I don't like it. rea·son·a·ble /ˈrēz(ə)nəb(ə)l/ adjective (of a person) having sound judgment; fair and sensible. You can dislike the record for any reason you want and it's valid, but reasonable doesn't mean the same thing and can't be tied to your argument unless you look at it in the way Deafening outlined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burndownlosangeles Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Fuckin’ dig this one a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Played this shit a few more times and my initial reaction was correct. It’s tight. Turnover still out here killin it. I think I’ve caught at least one show during every full length album cycle, hopefully I’ll catch them some time during this one too. jonnywreck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadDonut Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Anyone miss out on the RFC exclusive and need a copy? $20ppd in the states and it's yours. Got the pinwheel variant and like it much better. Just PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperg1ant Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 They've been playing the last shows with Shane (from Title Fight) as a touring member. Cool as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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