Do any of you actually listen to the music you buy?

[gutzonborglum]

I'm pretty sure we're having a good time here.

I believe you are sincere, crazy eats.

[AlexH.]

Man, how is it possible that you can type so much text and have it all be so boring and worthless

[xxbyaaahxx]

And what would the intention be to DELIBERATELY tell customers that a release is limited, probably hand numbered or has different colour varients? I know what the reason, I know it's for people to collect and stick them on a shelf or in a box never to be opened. It's so those people can say oh no, i need to be 3 copies so i have one of each colour. I must spend my money on those pieces of PVC plastic, my life cannot be complete without them. I know the reason for it but I want you to tell me why you think it is done because IMO and it's not just my opinion, lots of labels do this, we don't need varients, we don't need hand numbering, we don't need to be told how many copies are pressed. It's all done to make money, a short term profit. The last intention is to give the listener any kind of real quality product, they aren't real music labels. They're just there to make a quick buck.

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure that somewhere within your massive post about 12" singles, you praised the fact that you could buy numbered/colored variants of singles. I may be wrong on the color aspect, but I swear you sung the praises of a numbered single, so what makes a standard LP any different?? Regardless, you're a fuckin moron. Yes we all know why there are variants and shit, we know its the label cashing in on the hardcore's, Third Man Records are the kings of making high end shit to sit on a shelf, but guess what, NOT A SINGLE PERSON GIVES A RATS FUCKIN ASS YOU CRY BABY BITCH!

 

People have money, they bust their ass for it, if they wanna buy these things, then so be it. You're content with $10-$15 dollar black albums, so purchase them and shut the fuck up.

 

Also, did you happen to take into account that the recent influx in price of a standard record may be due to the simple fact that VINYL IS FUCKING BACK! With only a small amount of manufacturers on this planet, and the demand to get records made, I'm pretty sure it's put a lot of shit on the manufacturers to flip product as fast as they can. Not to mention, good ol' 'Merica needs everything now now now, so add more costs to try and bump orders in front of some other labels, and presto, theres your $25 record.

[xxbyaaahxx]

If I was that artist, I'd rather sell 400 copies to genuine fans than 1000 copies where more end up in the hands of collectors who don't care what my name is or what my music sounded like

 

Also, this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

 

A) You against making money?

B ) Who the fuck actually owns a record of a band they dont know or haven't listened too??

 

All further arguments from your end are now nullified for being literally the most moronic thoughts ever produced

[Guest crazybeats]

My point was they kept making them, they didn't just pick a number and stop at that, they kept up with the demand, they kept making more and numbering them and some went well past 6000. That's a lot for a single. You can call me all the names you want because that seems to be the thing around here, all the name calling that goes with the posts, I bet you're not even from Alberta, probably born in some cheap ass Winnipeg hospital in the mid 90's. Away and take your seat kid.

[slinch]

This is so fun.

 

Hey cray cray, you still haven't answered my question. Why do you even buy records? A true music fan would never buy a record, especially one pressed in a large quantity (large pressing = bigger label = less artist-favourable money distribution). A true music fan would steal the album (greedy labels don't deserve shit), send the retail price amount of cash directly to the band and support them this way. Any true artist would never want fans to support greedy businessmen.

 

But it seems you are not a true music fan, all you care about is buying records from major labels that have the money to press thousands of copies of albums, and we all know they made that money from stupid assholes like yourself who don't want to steal records and send money directly to the band, but rather fill the pockets of executives who only care about making money to be able to afford pressing thousands of copies to make more money, while the artists are making pocket change.

 

[ntslash]

I listen to everything I buy, no matter how rare it is. I buy music to collect it but also to enjoy it.

[drds89]

That means you open it up and you play it and are able to hear it. I was looking at some albums today, not that long till they're out and others only just out in the last few months and not only do I see terms like sold out and limited and varients but I see people doing trades. Then I browse the very few music forums I bother with including this one and I see these same terms and what I did was I looked at these albums that have sold out in just a few months and also to the ones coming out and it's the same kind of thing. This one will be numbered, this one will be red but this other black varient is only 1000 copies.

 

 

Really? Is that what music is now? That to me means it's shit. How can any company or label with a straight face say they care about the music they are releasing when they stick a number on each one, different colours on each one and then places like this talk about it so you end up with all these people buying the damn things just for the sake of it having it as a collectable. Don't get me wrong, if i owned a label, i'd take every penny I could get out of all you people. You deserve to have your money taken out of your pocket, you deserve to be ripped off, you deserve to pay $30 for a piece of cheap PVC plastic stuck inside some cheap cardboard cover. If i was them I'd do the same damned thing because obviously hand written numbers and colours and limited pressings means more than buying something because you want it and it's going to give you pleasure to listen to it.

 

 

I applaud the bootleggers. I wish they would do more. Paragon done some great bootlegs over the last few years with regards to 12" singles. What we need is more bootleggers to start pressing albums and sell them fast and cheap. Let's face it, major labels are just gonna stick the same CD master onto the record anyway, it's not like they're gonna spend any time making sure Katy Perry sounds good on vinyl so I think we need to go back to the 1990s where the white label was king and you all know that anyway. You know the albums you buy from Amazon are just as good as any bootleg, you fool yourselves into believing you're getting something better but it really isn't. I'd rather that than be told there is only 1000 copies of an album being pressed but oh no....that's just a colour, if you want it on black vinyl well, you're screwed cause that sold out in so many hours but don't worry you can still buy some on white vinyl from this cowboy website in America and pay lots of shipping on top of the premium price because remember it's limited!  We could easily press 5 or 6000 of them but we'd rather fuck you up the ass and get what we can while we can. What an insult to me and my fellow music fans.

 

 

It's all money money money. Anytime i read the word varient or hand numbered or limited I will think of the word money because that's all it is about. And don't any of you lot think I'm on your side, I told you people not that long ago it was your fault for killing off the 7" and 12" single and now through sheer greed and ignorance you're starting to kill off the album LP. Shame on all of you that buy into all this hype and talk and throw your money at these money hungry labels. And you can badmouth me all you want like you tried to do last time because I mentioned I liked popular music and this place thrives on guitar driven music and lets sit barefoot singing a song about love and peace and the thing is, at least with my music, i don't need a million options, I don't need money taken from my bank account months in advance because some geek who has more money than sense decides to dive in and buy it for the sake of making a quick buck rather than giving it to me, someone who actually wants it for the right reasons. When Eminem's MMLP2 gets released in a few weeks, and it will be on vinyl in the UK, no word on the US yet. At least I know i can not only buy it on release but I can buy it at Christmas, next year even, maybe next Christmas or Christmas 2015 because real labels don't just pick a number out of thin air, they keep pressing them and keep making them available to suit the demand. It's like the 100,000 copies of Justin Timberlake's 20/20 album. Those copies will last years. That's how it should be done. Infact I don't even want any replies in this thread, I just had to get that off my chest and let you people know what I think and what I think is right, I'm always right so don't try and argue back at me because you know I'm right and I don't care what the excuses are, It's BS and it ruins the very thought of buying a musical album. Music was never about that and it should never be about that.No one should ever have to feel pressured about buying an album because oh no if you don't buy it now then you can't later. All this stuff about colours is rubbish too, no coloured vinyl was ever superior to black virgin vinyl. Hand numbering? That's fine as long as you keep making them, you don't just stop after a certain number, if the demand is there then you keep going, you don't force people onto Ebay or Discogs. Or you do what the big labels do, you press plenty and you do it on black vinyl and you ship it everywhere you can.

 

Narcissist - doubt intoxicated with alcohol -and Borderline personality disorders right up front (and failed Logic, Business, and Darwinism 101)  

 

[drds89]

Oh, and +2

[agreetodisagree]

Why would you ever waste this much time worrying about what other people do with their money?

I admit, I have been judgmental looking at someone's trade list to find every record is sealed, or they have variants of every release in their collection. But what would ever change their mind about collecting that way? Certainly not THIS.

The fact that you thought this issue was worthy of a public forum paints a nice picture of how dimwitted you are.

[batman]

[xxbyaaahxx]

My point was they kept making them, they didn't just pick a number and stop at that, they kept up with the demand, they kept making more and numbering them and some went well past 6000. That's a lot for a single. You can call me all the names you want because that seems to be the thing around here, all the name calling that goes with the posts, I bet you're not even from Alberta, probably born in some cheap ass Winnipeg hospital in the mid 90's. Away and take your seat kid.

 

Doesn't change the fact that it makes it collectible, and thus goes against your entire argument. I'm pretty sure there were other variants of said singles back in the day as well, or are you the 12" vinyl single wikipedia?

 

Also, what the fuck kind of dumbass attempt at cutting someone down was that? Yes I was born in Alberta, a small town called Bonnyville. To boot, I was born in the 80's, not the 90's, so fuck my seat, I will gladly stand and continue to talk down to your dumb ass you feeble minded fuck.

[TFP]

Elitest Vinyl troll is successful at getting our ire and getting his post-count up.

[travis]

Best thread this board has seen in a while. Honestly can't tell if he's serious or not yet.

[slinch]

Travis it's all your fault, you and your super rare HT varients!!!!

[bathroommonkey]

i ran out of positive and negative votes, cool.

[TFP]

Where's the Ry thumbs up? Haha

[batman]

i ran out of positive and negative votes, cool.

me too

[batman]

Where's the Ry thumbs up? Haha

[TFP]

You know if OP posted some examples of labels/bands(?) that are corrupt(?) maybe that would help his argument? Or is he just upset that the new awesome (insert hip-hop record here) is not being pressed and "Bootlegs should be done more"

[parkinglot]

that lunch you bought yesterday couldn't have been worth $10, QUICK EVERYONE, STOP BUYING FOOD THEYRE RIPPING YOU OFF

[Guest crazybeats]

Doesn't change the fact that it makes it collectible, and thus goes against your entire argument. I'm pretty sure there were other variants of said singles back in the day as well, or are you the 12" vinyl single wikipedia?

 

Also, what the fuck kind of dumbass attempt at cutting someone down was that? Yes I was born in Alberta, a small town called Bonnyville. To boot, I was born in the 80's, not the 90's, so fuck my seat, I will gladly stand and continue to talk down to your dumb ass you feeble minded fuck.

 

 

parlez vous francais?

[gutzonborglum]

C'mon crazy feat.

Can I ask what your home life is like, lazy sneeze?

[slinch]

parlez vous francais?

Hey cray cray, you still haven't answered my question.

 

[gutzonborglum]

We're friends here.